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cirKus
01-09-2006, 03:55 PM
Whats the deal with disk in cross bikes, is that gonna change for 2006 or beyond?

Reactor
01-10-2006, 07:40 AM
Whats the deal with disk in cross bikes, is that gonna change for 2006 or beyond?


UCI is automatically against anything new or works better than existing equipment. I wouldn't count on it.

cirKus
01-10-2006, 08:23 AM
You're right, the wheel might as well be square when it comes to those guys, wishfull thinking.

SuspectDevice
01-10-2006, 09:46 AM
Unless you race UCI sanctioned races the rule doesn't apply to you.

indieboy
01-10-2006, 09:48 AM
UCI is automatically against anything new or works better than existing equipment. I wouldn't count on it.


you ever raced cross?

cirKus
01-10-2006, 10:15 AM
I raced nationals bclass at Providence, in that race disk were ok, I just heard rumors UCI might allow it in sanctioned raced next year.

SuspectDevice
01-10-2006, 10:42 AM
Go download the UCI tech manuals, I'm pretty sure they are allowed again, Cannondale got the rule rescinded. No one uses them anyway.

Reactor
01-11-2006, 01:43 PM
you ever raced cross?


Not cyclecross, One of the things that put me off was the disk rule. Every bike I have is disk, except my Roubaix comp road bike. I don't do off-road without disk. I mostly race marathon and 24 hour events. If they change the rule I might consider it, but I'm not buying a new bike bike just to try it.

SuspectDevice
01-11-2006, 01:45 PM
Not cyclecross, One of the things that put me off was the disk rule. Every bike I have is disk, except my Roubaix comp road bike. I don't do off-road without disk. I mostly race marathon and 24 hour events. If they change the rule I might consider it, but I'm not buying a new bike bike just to try it.

Reread some posts. Unless you are racing in a UCI event, which you won't be, you can race with discs...

cirKus
01-11-2006, 02:38 PM
Some west coast state series' abide by UCI rules, strictly for state points and consistancy with the institution, even though it's not actually UCI.

Zutroy
01-11-2006, 03:26 PM
I think in the not to distant future all the big USCF races will have to follow the UCI rules.

Reactor
01-11-2006, 08:47 PM
straight from the horses ....

Rules Interpretations > Disk Brakes

Disk brakes are not allowed in UCI events other than mountain bike events. While last year this was an interpretation of the UCI given that disk brakes had never been approved for any races, this year it has been clearly written into the UCI rules that disk brakes are not allowed.

Thus, if you are riding cyclocross, you may use disk brakes only if the race is USCF only. For any event on the UCI calendar, if you are in the Elite Men, Elite Women, U23 Men, or Junior Men, and these races were put on the calendar, then you cannot use disk brakes. If the organizer has also included masters events or events for category 3 riders, or juniors below 17 years old, then disk brakes will be allowed.

Of course it could all change next year.

cirKus
01-12-2006, 02:54 PM
Well stated, same time, same place, next year

indieboy
01-13-2006, 07:11 PM
uscf doesn't push uci rules unless the event is under uci regulation. THUS allowing you to race your local events, unless they are under uci stanchion, with a disc brake equiped bike.
also meaning that unless you have a uci license, which i highly doubt that you do, then you don't have anything to worry about. and if you're that worried about it, i'm sure you've got friends who are willing to loan you a bike to atleast try it out.

Reactor
01-17-2006, 02:23 PM
uscf doesn't push uci rules unless the event is under uci regulation. THUS allowing you to race your local events, unless they are under uci stanchion, with a disc brake equiped bike.
also meaning that unless you have a uci license, which i highly doubt that you do, then you don't have anything to worry about. and if you're that worried about it, i'm sure you've got friends who are willing to loan you a bike to atleast try it out.

I'll have to check, most roadie-esque (including 'cross) races out here are under UCI. I haven't felt it necessary to get a UCi card yet, but I'll probably do it soon because I'm starting to do more roadie stuff. The thought of another road crash scares me.

cirKus
01-17-2006, 02:38 PM
What happened? I assume a big reck to be scared of a race.

Reactor
01-17-2006, 09:01 PM
I was the bike in a bike Vs. car. In November I rode 109 mile Tour de Tucson, and saw a bunch of people go down, quite a few taken away in ambulances.

SuspectDevice
01-18-2006, 11:07 AM
I'll have to check, most roadie-esque (including 'cross) races out here are under UCI. I haven't felt it necessary to get a UCi card yet, but I'll probably do it soon because I'm starting to do more roadie stuff. The thought of another road crash scares me.


Unless you are planning on racing outside of the US, you will not need a UCI license.

cirKus
01-18-2006, 11:08 AM
I was the bike in a bike Vs. car. In November I rode 109 mile Tour de Tucson, and saw a bunch of people go down, quite a few taken away in ambulances.

tough, sorry to hear that, was that 2 years ago?

Westy
01-18-2006, 11:11 AM
To talk about stupid rules a friend of mine tried wearing a ghetto jersey with a 24 hour team name on it for a cross race and they wouldn't let him race unless he wore a USCF registered team jersey. Stupid.

cirKus
01-18-2006, 11:13 AM
What???? That's ridiculous, where was the race, I bet the 24 hour team jersey was a lot cooler than any registard team.

Westy
01-18-2006, 11:15 AM
What???? That's ridiculous, where was the race, I bet the 24 hour team jersey was a lot cooler than any registard team.

It was just a local race, not sure if it was a UCI, USCF, NORBA, NORAD, POD, OPP or DOD sanctioned.

The Toninator
01-18-2006, 02:15 PM
Not cyclecross, One of the things that put me off was the disk rule. Every bike I have is disk, except my Roubaix comp road bike. I don't do off-road without disk. I mostly race marathon and 24 hour events. If they change the rule I might consider it, but I'm not buying a new bike bike just to try it.

check it

http://www.desertsportstx.com/events.html

indieboy
01-20-2006, 03:28 PM
I'll have to check, most roadie-esque (including 'cross) races out here are under UCI. I haven't felt it necessary to get a UCi card yet, but I'll probably do it soon because I'm starting to do more roadie stuff. The thought of another road crash scares me.

what the hell do you need a uci license for? the only thing you would ever need that for is if you are either a Div III or above racer on the road, a pro mtn biker who plans on racing outside the US, or a pro cross racer. don't bother dropping the coin for that license if you don't really need it.

indieboy
01-20-2006, 03:30 PM
To talk about stupid rules a friend of mine tried wearing a ghetto jersey with a 24 hour team name on it for a cross race and they wouldn't let him race unless he wore a USCF registered team jersey. Stupid.

some dude showed up to a local cx race with a world champ jersey on. to be honest, i was bothered by that a bit. not upset, but enough to say something.

The Toninator
01-20-2006, 03:41 PM
some dude showed up to a local cx race with a world champ jersey on. to be honest, i was bothered by that a bit. not upset, but enough to say something.

yea totally weird. especially when you have world champs present. Kind of disrespectful.

indieboy
01-20-2006, 06:28 PM
there weren't any world champs present at this race. it was a local race, but still disrespectful in my eyes. i'd never wear those stripes unless i earned them.

The Toninator
01-21-2006, 05:38 AM
there weren't any world champs present at this race. it was a local race, but still disrespectful in my eyes. i'd never wear those stripes unless i earned them.

yea but we have a few and i see it sometimes. also some people show up in Pro Team outfits. that is against the rules but not very often enforced.

Zutroy
01-21-2006, 11:04 PM
there weren't any world champs present at this race. it was a local race, but still disrespectful in my eyes. i'd never wear those stripes unless i earned them.


Yeah i think that's a bads too, any jersey like that, national champ...hell i think even wearing a tour replica jersey is a no no. I've never really seen the jersey rule about a pro jersey enforced, i have seen the no sleeve rule enforced.

cirKus
01-23-2006, 04:01 PM
If only I could have the Pabst pro racing jersey

Muuqi
01-29-2006, 01:27 PM
Too bad if they do change the rule, there aren't a very large selection of frames that CAN run discs.

cirKus
02-01-2006, 11:35 AM
It be Interesting to see which pros would run disks.