Giant Proto DH: updates????????

[spoke80]

Does anyone have any new info on Giant's proto dh bike?
Geometry, frame weights, blah, blah, blah......

[bizutch]

what do you care? You'll be riding the Wookie for years to come...assuming you even ride it?

[spoke80]

what do you care? You'll be riding the Wookie for years to come...assuming you even ride it?

Inquiring minds want to know. Besides what do you care what I care? :D

[konahucker43]

the giant mechanic i talked to at snowshoe told me that randos bike weighs anywhere from 42-44 lbs depending on what wheels and tires he runs. i am guessing its not that light but pretty good

[SirChomps-a-Lot]

Are we talking about the one that had a Sunday linkage? Looks to me like they licensed the design off Ironhorse.

[Acadian]

Are we talking about the one that had a Sunday linkage? Looks to me like they licensed the design off Ironhorse.

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[Natedog]

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Hey Guys,
I haven't been on here in a long time,but I'm Nate "Dusty" from Michelin,and I may be able to shed some light on the new Giant that I like to call the "monday". Rando's bike as seen in the picture that Acadian posted for us has a 14" bb height and a 65 degree head angle,I'm not too sure on the final top tube and wheelbase measurements. As far as weight goes with a not so light Saint group and his race wheels featuring the fantastic "le systeme" weighs in at 43.5 lbs....not too shabby considering switching to a common race group (fsa cranks,hayes brakes,regular not heavy hubs) and tubeless setup you can easily drop another 2-3lbs not even trying....

So as great as the sunday rides I may be spotted on one of these bad boys next year.....

hope that helps a little bit

Dusty

[bballe336]

Are we talking about the one that had a Sunday linkage? Looks to me like they licensed the design off Ironhorse.
one its not a sunday linkage, two its based off of Giant's maestro design that is used on almost all of their full suspension range. it was not licensed by IH and will not be because giant has been using/working on this design for longer than the DW link has been around.

[chicodude]

one its not a sunday linkage, two its based off of Giant's maestro design that is used on almost all of their full suspension range. it was not licensed by IH and will not be because giant has been using/working on this design for longer than the DW link has been around.


Uh oh....

[Jeremy R]

Uh oh....

........with a firm push from his index finger, lifting his glasses into place,
DW begins to type.................. :D

[renegade999]

thanks for the 411 dusty.

[RaID]

giant has been using/working on this design for longer than the DW link has been around.

you mean just like with their motolink (current) DH bike design



im waiting for the wrath to unleash

[360]

Are we talking about the one that had a Sunday linkage? Looks to me like they licensed the design off Ironhorse.

not really, from what i understand the only thing that makes the IH unique is that the shock mounts to the lower pivot.

otherwise dw would be paying edgebikes or whoever royaltys.

[speedster]

Hey Guys,
I haven't been on here in a long time,but I'm Nate "Dusty" from Michelin,and I may be able to shed some light on the new Giant that I like to call the "monday". Rando's bike as seen in the picture that Acadian posted for us has a 14" bb height and a 65 degree head angle,I'm not too sure on the final top tube and wheelbase measurements. As far as weight goes with a not so light Saint group and his race wheels featuring the fantastic "le systeme" weighs in at 43.5 lbs....not too shabby considering switching to a common race group (fsa cranks,hayes brakes,regular not heavy hubs) and tubeless setup you can easily drop another 2-3lbs not even trying....

So as great as the sunday rides I may be spotted on one of these bad boys next year.....

hope that helps a little bit

Dusty

Thanks Dusty, that was some good info. I didn't know you guys were still using "The System"...the last time I saw that was when Michelin was sponsering a ton of DH'ers, including Nico. I remember hearing it was similar to what you guys use for the rally guys, but I thought you stopped using it because of the weight. Anyways, thanks for the info.

[toodles]

*runs for cover and peers out to see who will be left standing*

Actually, I wonder if they will be doing an entire range or will just the top model use the new linkage...

[ska todd]

a bunch of inaccurate and useless info

Thou shall not make stuff up and talk out of their arse.

Come see me at the Iron Horse tent at Mt Snow.

-ska todd

[bballe336]

sure if i can get a ride.......

[Red Bull]

sure if i can get a ride.......
Do i smell a Date? :heart:

[ohio]

one its not a sunday linkage, two its based off of Giant's maestro design that is used on almost all of their full suspension range. it was not licensed by IH and will not be because giant has been using/working on this design for longer than the DW link has been around.

Someone drank the kool-aid...

[Mutilatedjak]

*runs for cover and peers out to see who will be left standing*

Actually, I wonder if they will be doing an entire range or will just the top model use the new linkage...

my giant rep was saying they are tryin to get all the fs bikes to use meistro suspension, so i guess they will phase out the current moto link design, and use the meistro on all the dh bikes.

[roamingoregon]

ha ha ha ha.

It a prototype! Usually that means it's being tested until it's ready.

Who cares what the weight or geometry is of a prototype? It means nothing
until there is a final production bike...

[ThePriceSeliger]

sure if i can get a ride.......

I have a feeling you might get a ride in an ambulance if you keep talking out of your ass with facts that arnt true.

[dhkid]

what tires is that on the bike? i smell prototype.... or its just a bad pic.. :D

[Rik]

Huzzah for misinformation!

[spoke80]

Hey Guys,
I haven't been on here in a long time,but I'm Nate "Dusty" from Michelin,and I may be able to shed some light on the new Giant that I like to call the "monday". Rando's bike as seen in the picture that Acadian posted for us has a 14" bb height and a 65 degree head angle,I'm not too sure on the final top tube and wheelbase measurements. As far as weight goes with a not so light Saint group and his race wheels featuring the fantastic "le systeme" weighs in at 43.5 lbs....not too shabby considering switching to a common race group (fsa cranks,hayes brakes,regular not heavy hubs) and tubeless setup you can easily drop another 2-3lbs not even trying....

So as great as the sunday rides I may be spotted on one of these bad boys next year.....

hope that helps a little bit

Dusty


Thanks for the updates I apprecaite your help.

[Natedog]

what tires is that on the bike? i smell prototype.... or its just a bad pic.. :D

Nope...No prototype tires. Those are just off the shelf (out of the race support truck) that any one can buy. Michelin doesn'thave any secret race stock rubber that we use.....all the pro tires come out of normal batches that you and I could get.

The tire he ran at MT St.Anne was a Comp 16 2.5


Dusty

[bizutch]

Nope...No prototype tires. Those are just off the shelf (out of the race support truck) that any one can buy. Michelin doesn'thave any secret race stock rubber that we use.....all the pro tires come out of normal batches that you and I could get.

The tire he ran at MT St.Anne was a Comp 16 2.5


Dusty
Hey man, it's Butch. I got some stickers for you.

[neversummersnow]

So we are SURE this bike is going to production in 06? Or 99.9 percent eSure?

Looks good.

[zedro]

...the last time I saw that was when Michelin was sponsering a ton of DH'ers, including Nico....

speaking of which, i could really use a sponsorship now that Comp32s are 120$+ a pop :(

[AR_]

speaking of which, i could really use a sponsorship now that Comp32s are 120$+ a pop :(


Jesus!! They're pretty expensive over here too.

Thankgod edd still has a garage full of micchy tyres after the global sale. 7 euro a tyre, w00p.

[legend_killer]

the design is gaint's it is not dw's they are two diffrent designs, course what do I care I ride a true single pivot bike.

JT

[Radarr]

What I think is really interesting to see about the new Giant DH is that it's all Fox and Shimano, not RS, Raceface, SRAM, Manitou...

[SirChomps-a-Lot]

I'd hit it