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reflux
01-18-2005, 12:38 AM
Hi,

I know this is a little early, but I want to take care of this sooner rather than later. I'm doing a small mountain bike triathalon in April and need quicker tires than what I already have. The "mountain" course consists of 10 miles, approx 4 miles on asphalt and 6 on smooth fireroads. The requirements: a 26" tire (duh) and it must be a knobby. I was thinking of running a maxxis larsen tt on the back and a mutano 2.4 on the front. Thoughts? Thanks for your help in advance.

Andrew

MtnbikeMike
01-18-2005, 01:19 AM
Hutchinson Pythons roll VERY fast, though they do get sketchy at times. I prefer the Michelin Comp S Light for racing, myself.

blue
01-18-2005, 01:31 AM
For that, a Python sounds like it would work perfectly. However, you might even be able to get away with a semislick...

nTek
01-18-2005, 02:55 AM
I am using Maxxis Larsen TT 2.0 for urban and trails as well and this is the only tire set i had that can handle it both. Awesome product, go for it. And the 2.0 has more air volume than any 2.1 tire i've seen so the ride quality is good :)

Mackie
01-18-2005, 05:58 AM
The "mountain" course consists of 10 miles, approx 4 miles on asphalt and 6 on smooth fireroads.

So why do you need such fat tire? On a sprint course like that, if you MUST go with knobs - why not something like Conti Twisters, in a 1.95 - light, and very low RR. IRC Notos is the same general idea.

douglas
01-18-2005, 06:09 AM
why would you go w/ 2.4's ?

I run & recommend Pythons

reflux
01-18-2005, 08:30 AM
For that, a Python sounds like it would work perfectly. However, you might even be able to get away with a semislick...
I was thinking about using a semislick, but I don't know how strict the knobby tire rule is enforced. I'd rather err on the side of caution and run a fast "knobby."

reflux
01-18-2005, 08:32 AM
So why do you need such fat tire? On a sprint course like that, if you MUST go with knobs - why not something like Conti Twisters, in a 1.95 - light, and very low RR. IRC Notos is the same general idea.
The mutano 2.4 is a big volume, but small knob tire. It's been fast enough for a trail bike in the past... Thanks for the suggestions, I'll go check out the conti and irc.

MikeD
01-18-2005, 09:45 AM
I was going to say Python as well. It is a knobby tire, just not a high-profile knob...it's not even a semi-slick like a Micchie Jet S or something. It's fully knobbed and a great SoCal hardpack XC tire.

Continental Twister pro or the like might be a good idea...but you can probably get the pythons pretty cheaply, too...

(Oh, looks like I was beaten to the punch...but there's another endorsement...)

-dustin
01-18-2005, 10:02 AM
larsen tt

super fast.

The Toninator
01-18-2005, 10:21 AM
larsen tt

super fast.

Mimo front TT rear OR i'm going to try out some fast freds

http://www.performancebike.com/product_images/400/50_2600.jpg

-dustin
01-18-2005, 10:30 AM
Mimo front TT rear OR i'm going to try out some fast freds

i still have the TT you gave me/ threw away at Rocky Hill. poor thing is bald, with about 6 tears in the sidewall.

The Toninator
01-18-2005, 12:08 PM
i still have the TT you gave me/ threw away at Rocky Hill. poor thing is bald, with about 6 tears in the sidewall.

then i expect some kind of compensation

Westy
01-18-2005, 12:14 PM
A python ran with Stans tubeless is about the fastest thing out there.

GravityFreakTJ
01-18-2005, 04:18 PM
I would go with the Pythons.Personally I have had very bad luck with Conti's.Sidewalls seem weak,have had a ton of flats.

ilikebikes444
01-18-2005, 04:39 PM
i run larsonTT's for right now and they are PERFECT!! super fast!
also the comp s lights are very nice too

Serial Midget
01-18-2005, 09:27 PM
I have a set of Fast Freds and they are the fastest I have ever used - I have run them on fire roads and hardpack at seventy PSI. Scary fast with no grip but for your purpose... :thumb:

The Toninator
01-19-2005, 07:48 AM
I have a set of Fast Freds and they are the fastest I have ever used - I have run them on fire roads and hardpack at seventy PSI. Scary fast with no grip but for your purpose... :thumb:

hey which ones are you using 2O's or the 2.24(?)

good for total rocky ground but loose on dirt over hard pack?

Serial Midget
01-19-2005, 06:21 PM
hey which ones are you using 2O's or the 2.24(?)

good for total rocky ground but loose on dirt over hard pack?

I am using 2O's and I think they would be fine for dry conditions with a some loose dirt like a fire road or hardpack trail. I would not use them on technical trails or in wet conditions over rocks and roots. Fine for wet pavement...

sanjuro
01-19-2005, 08:32 PM
Hi,

I know this is a little early, but I want to take care of this sooner rather than later. I'm doing a small mountain bike triathalon in April and need quicker tires than what I already have. The "mountain" course consists of 10 miles, approx 4 miles on asphalt and 6 on smooth fireroads. The requirements: a 26" tire (duh) and it must be a knobby. I was thinking of running a maxxis larsen tt on the back and a mutano 2.4 on the front. Thoughts? Thanks for your help in advance.

Andrew

My friend ran a pair of Conti Twister Pros for an outdoor duathlon. They have the tiniest of knobs and the come in a 1.9 width. They even make a super light version which weighs 370g (!).

They are totally useless in the mud (as my friend found out after he rode on them for the whole summer), but I think there is nothing faster for the hardpack/asphalt.

JMAC
01-19-2005, 09:00 PM
I vote for Kenda Karma DTC much faster than python ime from racing with both. However, I've never had a flat with a python, tubed or with stans. With Karmas I have had the sidewalls tear with stans but not with a tube in....

MtnbikeMike
01-19-2005, 10:20 PM
I vote for Kenda Karma DTC much faster than python ime from racing with both. However, I've never had a flat with a python, tubed or with stans. With Karmas I have had the sidewalls tear with stans but not with a tube in....


I've managed to tear sidewalls in both of those, both were Stan-itized, then I stopped trying to cheat the system and am now using a UST tire.

jon cross
01-19-2005, 10:59 PM
Pythons would be your best bet, as they are good tires, cheap, low rolling resistance and light weight. If I was doing the race you are describing I'd run a python in the front and a Specialized Mt Baldy in the back- it's a nice semislick with decent cornering knobs.

wujj
01-20-2005, 11:51 AM
Panaracer Speedblasters roll fast and are very light. I raced STXC with the 1.95 and they grip and corner very well. Maybe try the 1.75 for your competition.

http://www.panaracer.com/eng/products/mtb/xc.html#d

Softy
01-20-2005, 12:11 PM
Intense System 1 in 2.0. Very fat and fast. It holds a Stans conversion nicely for extra fast rolling.

Sorry but IMO the Larsen TT's are too heavy to even consider on a race ride.

BMXman
01-25-2005, 01:39 AM
I woud look into Kenda Karma DTC tires in the 2.0 size...they're are extremely light (480 grams)and roll very fast....D
http://www.kendausa.com/_DOWNLOADS/images/model/karma.jpg

heikkihall
01-25-2005, 04:04 PM
http://www.michelinbicycledealer.com/2004tires/images/2004/tires/tubelessjets.jpg

This tire rules! Michelin Jet S

reflux
01-27-2005, 06:55 PM
Awesome! Thanks for the help and suggestions. I'll have to head down to an LBS whenever I get the free time. On the topic, for anyone in the OC, who has a decent selection of stuff? The Path is cool, but they don't have much in the way of xc stuff...

CChase86
01-27-2005, 07:17 PM
I have Jet S tubeless tires and I have not been impressed with their rolling all that well. My FireXC Pro 2.1's roll better on pavement than they do.

Cash-Money
01-28-2005, 01:34 AM
as far as a knobby that rolls fast, the halo twin rail 2.2 technically counts as a knobby but rides on these two little rails like a road tire. if the dirt is dry they'd work well for you

Serial Midget
01-31-2005, 04:59 PM
I woud look into Kenda Karma DTC tires in the 2.0 size...they're are extremely light (480 grams)and roll very fast....D
http://www.kendausa.com/_DOWNLOADS/images/model/karma.jpg

I have these too, I still think the Fast Freds with tubes are faster rollers.

motomike
02-07-2005, 07:41 PM
I would use Maxxis High Roller Type-R tires front and read. Almost a semi-slick, but not. Great side knobs....

ilikebikes444
02-11-2005, 10:46 PM
also a tire that i have used and performed in all of the best conditions that i will only use now...is the nokian NBX Lite.
it is a light tire, a very fast tire, has good cornering, great rolling resistance...better than some in the mud!
man! its awsome, i would highley recommend this!
peace

ioscope
02-11-2005, 11:16 PM
Are there any air volume/size requirements? You could probably find a knobby hybrid tire.

JMAC
02-12-2005, 07:43 AM
I've managed to tear sidewalls in both of those, both were Stan-itized, then I stopped trying to cheat the system and am now using a UST tire.

Yeah stands really isn;t that great in NON ust tires. You really can;t get away from the fact they simply ment to have tubes in them.LOL

The Toninator
02-16-2005, 03:41 PM
man i just got my fast fred lites in and boy are they lite. i dont thing their going to hold up to really rocky terrain well.

Serial Midget
02-17-2005, 04:23 PM
man i just got my fast fred lites in and boy are they lite. i dont thing their going to hold up to really rocky terrain well.

Yep - I consider them a single race endurance tire, get fresh ones for each race and pack the old ones for spares.

That said - I have ridden them 100 miles plus on fire roads paved with 3/4" blast and had ZERO problems, no slices or undue wear. Our firle roads hear are not dirt - too much rain so they are 100% blast with 100s of sharp edges per square foot.

BaggyShorts
02-17-2005, 06:53 PM
I like the michelin comp s lites for racing hear in the northwest.