Help with some burly hardtail pics...

[Warped]

would some people please post a pics of a .243 Racing frame, a Snipes 30-06 or an On One Gimp built up?? i can't find very many pics of any of those and am interested in buying one or one similar.

hell, post any sweet hardtail pics while you're at it.

[gravity plus]

lets see if this works:
C:\My Documents\My Pictures\BIGLe-Toy-Custom.jpg

C:\My Documents\My Pictures\24 letoy 2.jpg

C:\My Documents\My Pictures\me.jpg

C:\My Documents\My Pictures\bens-toy4.jpg

[spag52]

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic11532.jpg
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic15086.jpg
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic12110.jpg
http://www.on-one.co.uk/graphics/ooo_f/gimp_jee1.jpg
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic7790.jpg
http://www.on-one.co.uk/graphics/ooo_f/gimp_matchantler1.jpg
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic15298.jpg
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic15296.jpg

[seth399]

that Evil bike is the ugliest thing ever right spag?? ehhee
:rolleyes:

[gravity plus]

C:\My Documents\My Pictures\dmr.jpg

C:\My Documents\My Pictures\letoy monster.jpg

C:\My Documents\My Pictures\planet x 2.jpg

C:\My Documents\My Pictures\planet x.jpg

[Toshi]

Originally posted by gravity plus
C:\My Documents\My Pictures\dmr.jpg
gravity plus,

You either have to attach them one at a time, or upload them all to a website, then link to them. Linking to them while they're on your hard drive doesn't work. Side note: if you grabbed them from Pinkbike in the first place, you should just link to them on PB instead of uploading them again.

[gravity plus]

Originally posted by Toshi

gravity plus,

You either have to attach them one at a time, or upload them all to a website, then link to them. Linking to them while they're on your hard drive doesn't work. Side note: if you grabbed them from Pinkbike in the first place, you should just link to them on PB instead of uploading them again.

it worked for me, did it not work for you?

[Toshi]

Originally posted by gravity plus


it worked for me, did it not work for you?
Here's all I (and everyone not using your computer) get:

[spag52]

Originally posted by seth399
that Evil bike is the ugliest thing ever right spag?? ehhee
:rolleyes:

hey i like the look of the evil. it just takes a little getting used to. i already own a le toy though so the evil doesn't appeal. maybe in the future:confused: :rolleyes:

[spag52]

droooooool. the fork is a 99/00 z1 dual. my dream fork. pretty rare supposedly:mad:

http://www.bombenkrater.de/Bikes/Bilder/BkM-Matze-PP-2000.jpg

[VooDoo]

Here are some
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic12489.jpg
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic5229.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic5229.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic13762.jpg
of course Alain's DH weekend Le Toy http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic14547.jpg

[VooDoo]

Even More,

Matty's http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic3505.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic2640.jpg
Will's Toy http://www.trickydice.com/pics/24pics/willstoy.jpg Larry's Bommer http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic12149.jpg Rollie's (Andrejs) Minuteman http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic8053.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic13419.jpg

[Shmoe]

my bike:D

you have no idea just how sweet it is

[psylo]

you got it shmoe? I got my berserker and hellbents, pics when I get home!

[CyberJay]

I'm absolutely positive this is not what you're in the market for... But it *IS* a quite burly hardtail.

9lb steel frame.
47.5lbs complete.
Gazzy 26x3.0 front and rear.
Stratos S8 5" travel(thanks R!).

I think of it as my pedal powered monster truck.

http://images.cyberjay.net/pics/blkshp/sheep02m.jpg

-Jay

[Warped]

wow, thats a lot more than i expected!

hey Shmoe, stop rubbing in the sweetness of your bike!!!!!!!!!!!

CyberJay....can you even do anything on that beast?!

[Warped]

anybody have pics of a .243 Racing frame or bike?? the only ones i could find are the one on NSMB and the one that is partially built up on Pinkbike.

[Shmoe]

Originally posted by Warped
wow, thats a lot more than i expected!

hey Shmoe, stop rubbing in the sweetness of your bike!!!!!!!!!!!

CyberJay....can you even do anything on that beast?! sorry, but what?

you should just see how this thing rides:D

[Warped]

lol, how about you show me?! post some riding pics.....and i dont wanna hear that lame, "I don't have a digi cam" excuse....;)

[a13x]

O.G. - The burly hardtail I bought January of 2000 BEFORE burly hardtails were the rage. What a fine bicycle.

[Dinsy]

my ride....

[ATXjimATX]

always looking for an excuse to post another one of the JFR

[Unreal]

This is quite possibly the best thread of all time :)

[a13x]

mmhmm

[spag52]

http://www.dmrbikes.com/bikebuilds/blkchr24skick.jpg
http://www.dmrbikes.com/bikebuilds/schro_26sk.jpg
http://www.norco.com/bikes/2002bikes/images/4hun.jpg
http://www.sinisterbikes.com/RidgePics/veinridge1.jpg
http://www.ellsworthbikes.com/page/big/SpecialistClrzdWeb.jpg

[Zonic Man]

Me likey

http://www.grossmanproject.com/img/fdtkpl.jpg

[Shmoe]

Originally posted by Unreal
This is quite possibly the best thread of all time :)

defenatly:D

[Bulldog]

Originally posted by a13x
O.G.

Alex, has the P.3 been "orphaned" now with that purdy Imperial around? Is that the fork that is on the Imp too?

[Warped]

here's a couple from me:

[Warped]

another

[Warped]

this is the only .243 pic i can find

[Warped]

snipes

[diesel]

my friend just built up a 243, it REALLY kicks ass. ill snap some shots tomrrow. hey this thred KICKS ARSE!! its like my hardtail pics directory all over again :p andrejs minuteman is so SO SO sick. i cant wait till im done building mine. o well, heres my contribution.


http://demo.ibtnet.com/mani_minuteman.jpg
http://demo.ibtnet.com/pb_dirt3.jpg
http://demo.ibtnet.com/pbpic15355.jpg
http://demo.ibtnet.com/pbpic16275.jpg

[a13x]

Originally posted by Bulldog
Alex, has the P.3 been "orphaned" now with that purdy Imperial around? Is that the fork that is on the Imp too?

That orange Imperial isn't officially *mine*. The p.3 is laying on the floor right now but other than the fork and wheel (which is on orange Imp) it's ready to go.

[HOOWAH]

just put the shiver on it last night, haven't ridden it yet.

i don't own it, just tryin it out.

T

[PGR]

He,.. yeah why not. The headangle seems okay as well..

[HOOWAH]

just seein if it works. i see people doing it all the time but don't know why...
i'll probably be able to try it out tonight. the head angle is a tiny bit slacker than that pic lets on.
just from sitting on it, it doesn't actually feel that screwed up.

i was expecting it to feel like doing pushups on a diving board, but it doesn't.
T

[Bulldog]

Originally posted by a13x


That orange Imperial isn't officially *mine*. The p.3 is laying on the floor right now but other than the fork and wheel (which is on orange Imp) it's ready to go.

If you "borrow" or "test" the Imp for just a little while longer won't you be able to claim it as your own under Squatter's Rights? :) Give it a shot!

[narlus]

Originally posted by HOOWAH
just put the shiver on it last night, haven't ridden it yet.

i don't own it, just tryin it out.

T

i was wonderin' where that one went. i like the puke green (linda blair edition?) version a lot better than the red one.

here is another one i haven't seen posted yet:

http://www.sinisterbikes.com//RidgePics/sandridge1.jpg

besides Evil, there is another group of locals (aka Sinister Cycles)building some good stuff. check out their stuff here (http://www.sinisterbikes.com/home.htm)

some of you might have seen a couple of the bikes @ shawnee last saturday, as bill and bryan were riding them.

[protijy]

The F*cking Evil HT with a SHIVER.... That taking the cake as the most wack ass bike I have ever seen! Gotta go with the Evil with a 4" fork and 24" the frame just sweet!

http://www.dac.neu.edu/bike/picz/easterns2001/gap%20pics/image2.htm[/url]

[diesel]

Originally posted by grommet
Yo Diesel... you live in the Vancouver area?...couldn't help but notice the 99.3 Fox sticker.


hehe nono that ones not mine. in fact none of these are mine. i fing WISH these were mine. they are just some of my fav hardtails ive come across. im not gunna post pics of mine till its done. right now im running it singlespeed but on fri im ordering an atomlabs rear wheel. anybody got any experience with these hubs/wheelbuilds? also an evilchinguide if i can find one, i might just have to wait til next month (evil is SOLDOUT):[ but you guys will see it eventually hehe.

[Sam B]

Here is my machine. The fork is now "raw" finish, the front brake is an Avid mech. disc and the back wheel is a Atomic rim, with a skinny little 1.85" BMX tire. Other than that the picture is pretty recent.

--Sam B

[Sam B]

Originally posted by Sam B
Here is my machine. The fork is now "raw" finish, the front brake is an Avid mech. disc and the back wheel is a Atomic rim, with a skinny little 1.85" BMX tire. Other than that the picture is pretty recent.

--Sam B

Oops here it is...

[dump]

Originally posted by narlus


i was wonderin' where that one went. i like the puke green (linda blair edition?) version a lot better than the red one.

here is another one i haven't seen posted yet:

http://www.sinisterbikes.com//RidgePics/sandridge1.jpg

besides Evil, there is another group of locals (aka Sinister Cycles)building some good stuff. check out their stuff here (http://www.sinisterbikes.com/home.htm)

some of you might have seen a couple of the bikes @ shawnee last saturday, as bill and bryan were riding them.

this is a rebadged planet-x right?

- dump

[auntesther]

nope. one of the guys at sinister I think was riding a rebadged spooky but these are actually their own design. My friend machines the chainstay and seat stay yokes for them. They are very nice bikes. look really beefy, they just look like alot out there becuz they got easton tubing and really, if you use the traditional double diamond design, how different can you make it?

[dw]

Originally posted by dump


this is a rebadged planet-x right?

- dump

costs $1000.00 US

dw

[dw]

Originally posted by protijy
The F*cking Evil HT with a SHIVER.... That taking the cake as the most wack ass bike I have ever seen! Gotta go with the Evil with a 4" fork and 24" the frame just sweet!

http://www.dac.neu.edu/bike/picz/easterns2001/gap%20pics/image2.htm[/url]

HAHAHAAA

I have to agree, that thing looks pretty messed up in that pic! Oh well, its all in the name of testing... Throw a 240lb. dude (Tom aka Hoowah) on it with an 8 inch fork and watch him huck big stuff all day on the Imperial!

Ill fire some pics of the black bike with 24X3s up soon. Maybe a couple of the green one in the woods too.

dw

[protijy]

Originally posted by obiwan-f1moto


HAHAHAAA

I have to agree, that thing looks pretty messed up in that pic! Oh well, its all in the name of testing... Throw a 240lb. dude (Tom aka Hoowah) on it with an 8 inch fork and watch him huck big stuff all day on the Imperial!



Looks alot better than the Arrow with the Shiver, gotta say I was very skeptical of the super T on the orange imperial, but it was s33k.... every time I sit on that bike it hurts my ass, cause I sit on it thinking it has rear travel.... The geometry is TITS (0)(0)

[Bear]

actually it felt really nice for urban (as in stair gaps, etc...)

[Bear]

sweet!

[Bear]

3

[Warped]

hey bear, can you give me a review on your Roast?? i am consdering buying either that or just building up a cro-mo frame.

[HOOWAH]

Originally posted by obiwan-f1moto


HAHAHAAA

I have to agree, that thing looks pretty messed up in that pic! Oh well, its all in the name of testing... Throw a 240lb. dude (Tom aka Hoowah) on it with an 8 inch fork and watch him huck big stuff all day on the Imperial!

Ill fire some pics of the black bike with 24X3s up soon. Maybe a couple of the green one in the woods too.

dw

240??? holy sh1te, maybe with your soakin wet mom riding on the handlebars boss. :p :p :p

jk

not 240 but close to it. you know i'm sensitive about my weight. it's awful sensitive when it all hangs between the legs.

T

[gravity plus]

Originally posted by HOOWAH

it's awful sensitive when it all hangs between the legs.

T

i have to go wash my eyes now.:(

[jimmydean]

I want to build something like this, but I can't seem to find anything I can afford right now. This sucks!

Sweet pics though, I hope to be able to post my next build here soon.

6'4", 235lbs of hucking power!!!

[B-boy]

:help: I'm looking for a relatively inexpensive trials/light urban frame..... Wondering if anyone can enlighten me on the price for one of those frames.. any internet dealers? thanks! :)

[Unreal]

Originally posted by stoney98
Do you people not like your headtubes?!

I don't sell a single bike that couldn't handle a Monster T just fine, strength wise. But only a few of them have the geometry for it.

[dw]

Originally posted by stoney98
I've had this crazy urge to build up a HT recently too, but Monster's and shiver's?!

Do you people not like your headtubes?!

Not even a slight issue with an 8 inch fork on the Imperial Stoney..

dw

[psylo]

Yeah, Have you seen the head tube? like 1/2 inch thick!!!
i want one

[gravity]

is it even conceivable that anyone could break an Imperial? that thing is built like a battleship!

[dw]

Originally posted by gravity
is it even conceivable that anyone could break an Imperial? that thing is built like a battleship!

i guess anything is possible! Seriously though, if someone breaks the thing, it will be a miracle if they don't have to go to the hospital for their own injuries. Profile cranks sould shear well before the frame breaks, so theres a gauge for ya!

dw

[jimmydean]

I noticed the Cheeta slalom doesn't have a replaceable d' hanger, what's up with that? Is that common on this type of bike? Does the Planet-X bikes have break-away hangers?

[Unreal]

Originally posted by jimmydean
I noticed the Cheeta slalom doesn't have a replaceable d' hanger, what's up with that? Is that common on this type of bike? Does the Planet-X bikes have break-away hangers?

Generally any good aluminum bike will have a replaceable derailleur hanger. Steel frames don’t usually get replaceable hangers because if they get bent out of shape, you can usually just whack them back into place. Steel is nice that way. When aluminum gets tweaked you can’t depend on it any longer, hence the replaceable hanger.

On a completely different notes, guess what everyone! Frank The Welder has decided to offer stainless steel dropouts for his DNA frame :)

[dw]

Originally posted by Unreal


Generally any good aluminum bike will have a replaceable derailleur hanger. Steel frames don’t usually get replaceable hangers because if they get bent out of shape, you can usually just whack them back into place. Steel is nice that way. When aluminum gets tweaked you can’t depend on it any longer, hence the replaceable hanger.

On a completely different notes, guess what everyone! Frank The Welder has decided to offer stainless steel dropouts for his DNA frame :)

cool, sort of like the stainless steel derailler hanger on the Imperials. A whole SS dropout isnt going to be a cheap option i bet!

dw

[Unreal]

Man, you have GOT to love stainless steel. This shop I used to work at here in Seattle used to make complete stainless steel frames. Man, where they pretty. A little whippy for my taste (pretty small gauge tubes and a very conventional design not well suited to my gorilla ass), but a good feel. The frames where absolutely gorgeous though, they’d polish them, then mask and bead blast them. It would give a great frosted look to the polished stainless tubes. I heard machining the BB and headtube was a bitch on tools though.

[TROXEL]

this is my urban/dh/freeride/dual bike
i replace the the crankset for a race face turbine whith ac chainring

[TROXEL]

this is my urban/dh/freeride/dual bike
i replace the the crankset for a race face turbine whith ac chainring
SOME URBAN RIDING HERE IN CHILE:

[dw]

heres a shot of an Imperial with a 6 inch fork on it. Notice the 26X2.8 michelins front and rear. THe chanistays are set at 16.25 inches in this pic with room to spare around the tire.

[dw]

This bike hasn't been photographed much standing still, but there are some good dirtjump pics of it. Actually a couple were on the board today.

Chainstays are set at 15.7 in this pic, has a Z1 MCR, and 2.3 Gazzy freeride tires (which measure bigger actually, the tires are pretty nice). This frame also rocks the Evil guide, Profiles, Stealth hubs, SRAM drivetrain, and FSA skypilot. Titec post, Funn seat, and prototype Evil Stem on board too.

[psylo]

AAAAAAAAAAAH your gonna make me buy an Imperial!!! :angryfire :angryfire :angryfire :mad: :mad: :mad: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[ManiacMatt]

Man, when you dont have to drop too much money into a DH frame, you can really afford to load up on some mac-daddy parts for the frame. Nice bikes!

[Daman]

i that one is my favorite...

[VooDoo]

Alain, that twofour is too bmx style to me. i like both of your set-ups' (with the z.1 dual and the monster t). 24 or evil will be my next bike...

[Unreal]

Originally posted by Daman
i that one is my favorite...

Holly crap Alain! I had to take a double take at that bike. At first I just thought "BMX" and it didn’t really excite me, then I realized "wait a minute, that's MTB stuff hanging on it. Then I realized "Damn, that looks a lot like a LeToy", then I realized who posted the message, and I felt kind of stupid :(

That’s the most BMX LeToy I’ve seen. Looks like a **** load of fun. Thanks for posting it!

[Daman]

ya..they do are pretty customable hehe...that one is very cool...its from a guy in Toronto ? working at the Bike depot i guess?

[Unreal]

Man, I've seen some really sick bikes in this thread. I wonder why more people haven't submitted bikes for my Bike Porn pages? Alain, do you have any specs on that bike? Can I toss it on my website?

[axel]

this thread should be a sticky IMO. its gotta be one of the best threads...hardtails rule.

[Daman]

naa..i have no specs...i found the pix on Pink bike..and email the guy to know hoo he was....i got the answer..but i dont know the exact spec...
if you go....to the photo section at pink bike and search for 24 toy ...you will have a shiat laod of toys pix and that bmx style one...whit the email of the guy...

[Shmoe]

hey unreal, you should post those pics you took of my bommer on your site:D

[Airborn]

Here is my ride.. one of the few pics of a .243 that are out there......

[G30RG3ryan]

as burly as they get!

[gravity plus]

Originally posted by Daman
i that one is my favorite...

i facking love that letoy, it also, is my favorite one.

[dw]

Heres an imperial with a Shiver, 2.8 michelins on the bike, Not a picture bike either, this thing is being ridden hard by +200# 6'4' Hoowah.

[dw]

Thanks for the pics John P and Tom!

[Bulldog]

That's amazing DW....the angles/numbers look right on for DH. And huge tires to boot! Although I'd never do that to a hardtail, it still earns big bonus points for the option. Niiiice.

[John P.]

Yeah, set up like that (huge tires, huge fork), it's not a great trail bike (especially for 6'4" Tom!), but it would rock on a DH course. Tom was launching the thing off quite a few good sized drops, landing front wheel first a majority of the time (he *claims* that was on purpose) and said it felt great. We got quite a few positive comments in the parking lot, too, and that's always nice.

BTW, thanks to Narlus and the gang for hooking us up on that ride.

--JP

[Damn True]

Originally posted by obiwan-f1moto
Thanks for the pics John P and Tom!


That thing is talking dirty to me. Make it stop!

It's like a trashy woman. You know if you got with it a good time would be a sure thing.......but the pain it would cause you.....

[DHJUNKIE]

There is a black imperial!! ohhh man it looks sick!!! shivers on the green one? crazy.. i really like alex's orange one when i got to ride it.. ohh so nice. here are some pics of the hardtail that my bro is going to get,, these are the same bike,, but same frame,, his will have 26x2.6 gozzi, w/ zokes DJ2, mammoth rims, lx cranks, and some other low end stuff... but here are some pics..

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic2640.jpg

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic2105.jpg

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic2104.jpg

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic2103.jpg

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic19142.jpg

[DHJUNKIE]

top,, make this a STICKY

[a13x]

yea can this be a sticky instead of the 'sick vid of pkill jump'.... please?

[mtbtuc8700]

Just found this on Evil and thought it was so nice!

[dw]

Originally posted by mtbtuc8700
Just found this on Evil and thought it was so nice!

hey, thats my bike! I took that pic!

looked a little lighter before, dont know how it got darkened up. Can someone lighten it for me here?

BTW, that train was blasting through there at about 50.

Trains are tough

dw

[DHJUNKIE]

hmm i lightened it,, i think...

[VooDoo]

DHJUNKIE,
your bor's not gonna be able to use lx cranks on the tankass. Your gonna either need profiles or isis. The tankass uses a 100mm bb and the only people that make a bb that will work is profile or racface. Raceface made it for the tomac's and canfield's for an alternative to profile. Also to use profiles you have to get the reaaaaaallly long axle, that measures like 7 inches. I know this because my friend got a tankass and he talked to bill, and said anyone who ever bought a tankass has used profiles, but said a raceface would work.

[DHJUNKIE]

Originally posted by VooDoo
DHJUNKIE,
your bor's not gonna be able to use lx cranks on the tankass. Your gonna either need profiles or isis. The tankass uses a 100mm bb and the only people that make a bb that will work is profile or racface. Raceface made it for the tomac's and canfield's for an alternative to profile. Also to use profiles you have to get the reaaaaaallly long axle, that measures like 7 inches. I know this because my friend got a tankass and he talked to bill, and said anyone who ever bought a tankass has used profiles, but said a raceface would work.

ohhh hehe, oh well guess hes going into debt...

[Ian F]

well, it's kinda whimpy when compared to Imperials and Le Toys, but it's honding up well to me bashing on it.

My Chameleon DS bike. Since this pic was taken, I replaced the Z1 lowers with those from a Mr T.
:D

[DHJUNKIE]

Originally posted by Ian F
well, it's kinda whimpy when compared to Imperials and Le Toys, but it's honding up well to me bashing on it.

My Chameleon DS bike. Since this pic was taken, I replaced the Z1 lowers with those from a Mr T.
:D

wow,, nice hardtail,, but is that 2-3downhill frames and a monster t,, adn some other hardtail frames i see hanging????:eek:

[dhbiker]

holy shiznit, i want the camo tank ass soooooooo bad:( :( :( :( , is it yours? how much do you want for it:eek: :eek:

[Ian F]

Originally posted by DHJUNKIE


wow,, nice hardtail,, but is that 2-3downhill frames and a monster t,, adn some other hardtail frames i see hanging????:eek:

Umm... well... actually... there are 5 frames in that shot... :rolleyes: a '00 4-banger (broken -long story), a '98 Lawwill DH-6 (Can't Climb's old bike), a '96 Foes Weasel waiting to get rebuilt, my old '97 M-1 (the blue blob ) that I'd like to sell, and a EWR Original Woods Bike that is also waiting to get rebuilt (my DS bike while Hulkamaniac owned the Chameleon for awhile).

To the left of the Monster, out of the picture, is my '97 Super T and a '98 Boxxer.

Yeah, I have a few bike parts... :rolleyes: They jsut keep multiplying and I can't bare to part with them... :help:

[DHJUNKIE]

Originally posted by dhbiker
holy shiznit, i want the camo tank ass soooooooo bad:( :( :( :( , is it yours? how much do you want for it:eek: :eek:

haha, no no its not my bike,, its Bill's (owner of clif cat) call him up, check out www.clifcat.com,, my bro is getting a tankass though,, mm i cant wait to try it out.

[Bulldog]

Originally posted by obiwan-f1moto


hey, thats my bike! I took that pic!

looked a little lighter before, dont know how it got darkened up. Can someone lighten it for me here?

BTW, that train was blasting through there at about 50.

Trains are tough

dw

Dave, I thought you said the previously un-photographed black bike was running dual 24x3.0's. Got any pics of it wearing those shoes?

[a13x]

here you go bulldog.

http://www.dac.neu.edu/bike/picz/easterns2001/other/2-EVIL-BIKES-2.JPG

http://www.dac.neu.edu/bike/picz/easterns2001/other/alex-jump.jpg

http://www.dac.neu.edu/bike/picz/easterns2001/ds/amanda-2.jpg

http://www.dac.neu.edu/bike/picz/easterns2001/ds/amanda.jpg

[Dinsy]

ALEX!! wheres your helmet SON!!

[Bulldog]

Originally posted by a13x
here you go bulldog.



Thanks Alex. Hey, where's your helmet?!.... just teasing man. I like the black color...ALOT!

I really like all the options as far as fork, wheelbase, and tire size goes. Crazy to get all those options out of a one size fits all frame like that. Are you guys (Evil) going to wait until the release date before posting detail shots. In particular, I'm not a fan of horizontal dropouts (except for the obvious wheelbase adjustments) because of disc wheel removal, disc alignment, and wheel sliding/twisting in the dropouts problems. Can you show us what the dropouts look like or are they patent-pending as well? Best I've seen so far are some so-so shots from the drive side. I can see something like a chain tug to keep the axle in place, that's very good. I'd really like to see how Dave designed his disc mounts too. If you can't, you can't, and I'll just wait for some owner to take pics. I understand.

I've only had the Cortina rolling for a short while and I'm so tempted. Thank God the Imp won't be out for awhile. A burly twin toptube hardtail would look perfect next to the Turner!
:)

[mtbtuc8700]

Tony,
This pic kinda shows the dropouts. Looks similar to the 24 dropouts, kinda, I know Evil probably has some cool engineering in the tensioners though.

[Bulldog]

Originally posted by mtbtuc8700
Tony,
This pic kinda shows the dropouts. Looks similar to the 24 dropouts, kinda, I know Evil probably has some cool engineering in the tensioners though.

Yeah, I've already seen all those. Thanks Tucker. I'm more interested in the disc mount. With the amount of wheelbase adjustability (1.5") I'd assume it slides with the sliding dropouts. I also want to see that it positions the caliper on top or better yet in front of the highest point on the disc rotor. If you've seen Dave Mowry try to take the wheel off his Balfa Minuteman you'll know what I'm referring to. He has to unbolt his caliper to remove his wheel. Not a huge problem, but still a pain in the a$$ nonetheless.

[mtbtuc8700]

Yes, I know Dave's wheel and disc are a pain, and that is the fitst thing that comes to mind when I think about horizontal dropouts. That is what turns me away from the horizontal dropouts.
I get what you are saying about there disc mounting though, just have to wait and see a closer pic.

You can kinda see the disc mount is part of the tensioner in the pic of the 24" and 26" set up by the car. Another cool note is the der. hanger is also part of the tensioner.

[diesel]

yea almost kinda maybe sorta like the dna frame? now THERE is a sick dropout design. i love it and if it was steel id be saving my cash right now to buy it...not that the imperial isn't as badass or better i just have no close ups of the imperial to compare to.

also IAN damn i didnt know you rode a cham.!? i had such an obsession with those bikes for a while, they really ROCK! i dunno there is something about them i cant get over, go a lota soul or somthin' :p

[Ian F]

Originally posted by diesel
yea almost kinda maybe sorta like the dna frame? now THERE is a sick dropout design. i love it and if it was steel id be saving my cash right now to buy it...not that the imperial isn't as badass or better i just have no close ups of the imperial to compare to.

also IAN damn i didnt know you rode a cham.!? i had such an obsession with those bikes for a while, they really ROCK! i dunno there is something about them i cant get over, go a lota soul or somthin' :p

Yep, I've had that frame since '98 - raced XC at Mt Snow on it... ouch... I have a I.F. for xc now (steel:good). The Chameleon is holding up well for me with dirtjumping and general DH abuse. I really like how it handles and seems made for a 4" travel Marzocchi. So far my biggest drop on it has been about 6-7 feet.

Btw, I asked FTW about steel frames and he'll make one if you want. Probably with the DNA-style drops outs if you ask for them and are willing to pay. Frank is a cool guy (I've met him at P-kill many times) and one of his steel frames may be my next HT after the Chameleon finally gives in...

[Timmy Turtle]

Originally posted by Ian F


Umm... well... actually... there are 5 frames in that shot... :rolleyes: a '00 4-banger (broken -long story), a '98 Lawwill DH-6 (Can't Climb's old bike), a '96 Foes Weasel waiting to get rebuilt, my old '97 M-1 (the blue blob ) that I'd like to sell, and a EWR Original Woods Bike that is also waiting to get rebuilt (my DS bike while Hulkamaniac owned the Chameleon for awhile).

Yeah, I have a few bike parts... :rolleyes: They jsut keep multiplying and I can't bare to part with them... :help:


How are you gonna rebuild that Foes Weasel?

Cuz i have one of those (foes weasel 2 -97 i think) and i screwed the derailleur hanger, thereby killing the whole swingarm. Rightnow i kinda fixed it by sawing off the hanger, drilling and screwing on a standard dereilleur hanger i bought in the local bikestore heh. It works fine but there isnt realy any future in the bike cuz it has no disc brake mount, the Fox Rx is probably dead.

Do you know if its possible to get a new swingarm for it? (with a disc mount heh). And what shock should i get to replace the fox rx? Is this frame eaven worth to waste my money on? I dont have much experiance of other full suspension bikes so i dunno how it rides, i mostly ride Urban with some occational freeride.

Any help would be very apriciated.

BTW this is my first post on this board, ive been reading it for a month or so and after Dropmachine (too... damn... small....) this is definately the best one. HI ALL (for the record, all swedes dont spell bad and write totaly uncomprehencive (<--- spelling right there), its just me)

[Ian F]

Originally posted by Timmy Turtle

How are you gonna rebuild that Foes Weasel?

Cuz i have one of those (foes weasel 2 -97 i think) and i screwed the derailleur hanger, thereby killing the whole swingarm. Rightnow i kinda fixed it by sawing off the hanger, drilling and screwing on a standard dereilleur hanger i bought in the local bikestore heh. It works fine but there isnt realy any future in the bike cuz it has no disc brake mount, the Fox Rx is probably dead.

Do you know if its possible to get a new swingarm for it? (with a disc mount heh). And what shock should i get to replace the fox rx? Is this frame eaven worth to waste my money on? I dont have much experiance of other full suspension bikes so i dunno how it rides, i mostly ride Urban with some occational freeride.

Any help would be very apriciated.

I plan to rebuild it as a XC/mild-FR bike with a 4" travel fork.

Replacement swingarms are available directly from Foes. I'm not sure how much, though. New swingarms come with disc tabs. I've also heard of guys welding and bolting custom tabs on with no ill effects, but it depends on how well it's done.

I have a Fox RX as well and for this frame it works fine. Typically to get it rebuilt, you need to send it back to Fox, which may or may not be an option for you. It may be possible for you to go to a World Cup race and have it rebuilt by6 them there - e-mail them and ask. Flat o nthis board also rebuilds Fox shock. You can find him in the "members" and e-mail or PM him. He's in Canada.

good luck and welcome to the :monkey: ! :)

[diesel]

i dreamed once of a steel chameleon. that would be so very sick. how much do you think that would cost ian? getting ahold of frank just to ask him pricing seems (from what ive heard) like it would be difficult but if youve talked to him maybe you could just ballpark it.

and yea an i.f. mmm theres this bike shop in burke, va where they got this beautiful i.f. built up. id love to get a custom singlspeed xc i.f. with some wakkie arse paint job. but they are way to expensive for me right now.

[dw]

So on dropouts for the Imperial.

You guys are totally right, Horizontal dropouts can be a total pain in the ARSE!! Like Tucker said, the Imperial Alpha Prototypes used a horizontal dropout with a 12mm thru axle. The caliper mount and stainless steel derailler hanger float with the axle. Its pretty good, but thru axles in horizontal drops are just not too fun to deal with on the trail.

The Imperial Beta prototype uses a standard QR (no thru axle), and an adjustable chainstay length as well. No pics are available yet.

I am not ready to divulge the nature of the new design yet, but as Bulldog speculated, it is pending patent.

As soon as we are ready to release the production frame, (they will be shipping for May) we will be showing pics and detailed explaination on how the new system works, and what it does.

this thread should be a sticky!! its great!

dw

[PGR]

My HT:

1:
http://www.livevil.dk/pgr/images/ts01.jpg

2:
http://www.livevil.dk/pgr/images/ts02.jpg

[Hydraulicman]

Here's mine, soon to be replaced with a Le toy III;) :D

http://users.skynet.be/steve.denys/velo.jpg

[Ian F]

Originally posted by diesel
i dreamed once of a steel chameleon. that would be so very sick. how much do you think that would cost ian? getting ahold of frank just to ask him pricing seems (from what ive heard) like it would be difficult but if youve talked to him maybe you could just ballpark it.

and yea an i.f. mmm theres this bike shop in burke, va where they got this beautiful i.f. built up. id love to get a custom singlspeed xc i.f. with some wakkie arse paint job. but they are way to expensive for me right now.

I vaguely remember something around $700 or so... maybe $800 - just a ball-park figure I remember him mentioning, don't hold me to it. Custom hand-made steel hardtails don't come cheap.

I toyed with having I.F. build a slalom frame for me - basically exactly what you wrote: a steel chameleon, but the price would likely be around $1500... a bit too much for a beat-on bike, IMO.

My I.F. is a nice, basic black with the std metal flake clear-coat and pimpin' gold King hubs. :D

[Cheers]

I am changing the cranks to either Profile of Planet X and the pedals to Planet X Klingons..This bike is my new favorite trail bike. Hardtails are Timeless!

[Shmoe]

another pic of mine:D

[Pip3r]

That black imperial litterally makes me want to cry:love: Thats flat out my dream bike, i couldnt think of anything else to spec on it. Could someone please explain the point of running dual crown DH forks on a HT? I just dont get it. If u want that much travel go get a real DH bike. The whole reason of a HT in my oppinion is to have soemthing nimble to play on. I guess ill just have to settle for my minute man instead of that black imperial... what a shame huh:rolleyes:
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic17337.jpg

[spag52]

oh oh oh:eek:
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic19240.jpg

[jimmydean]

That is my new fav. Kick a$$ paint job. Is that stock?

[spag52]

hell no, that is def. not stock. a job like that looks to be 100-200 bucks. i'm gettin ideas for my le toy now:cool: :rolleyes:

[jimmydean]

I could do it myself, but I favor power over paint, so all my bikes are one color. I guess I could power and do the grafix over top, might work...

[diesel]

Originally posted by Ian F



My I.F. is a nice, basic black with the std metal flake clear-coat and pimpin' gold King hubs. :D

f-in drool. gawd that sounds so sweet. you got n e pics of that? how much did i.f. charge you for a custom build?

[Ian F]

Originally posted by diesel
f-in drool. gawd that sounds so sweet. you got n e pics of that? how much did i.f. charge you for a custom build?

I'll PM you... I've polluted this thread with enough XC talk already... ;)

[Timmy Turtle]

This is the best thread ive ever seen on any board so far.

PLZ make it a sticky !! :) :)

[auntesther]

minichase

I run a dual crown on my HT becuz I like additional stiffness of it. I only run 5 inches on the front. I am not the trimmest of fellows so a 5" singlecrown is a little more flexy than I want.
That LeToy is sooooo sweet. awesome paint on that.


I agree that this is one of the best threads I have seen .

[Atomic]

Me the same: BEST TOPIC EVER!!!

[Timmy Turtle]

need more pics.... MORE.... MORE AAAAAHHH :monkey:

[a13x]

the masses have spoken. can this be a sticky? Please?! Remove *my* damn pkill jump thread! :oink:

[kuma]

Well...it's 42 lbs and I don't think I'll ever be able to break it. Finally finished it after starting it in September of last year. Big thanks to Alain for all the 24 swag. Built it up as a DH hardtail but having fun with it all over the place. Even with the Monster up front, with it's short wheelbase, this thing rides up on its rear wheel almost at will. Make of it what you will!

[Warped]

the is one of the sweetest pk's i have ever seen

[Warped]

this thing rules too.

[Warped]

ah, my fav park bike.

[spag52]

very sweet toy kuma. i'm building mine up right now:D

[Warped]

Originally posted by kuma
Well...it's 42 lbs and I don't think I'll ever be able to break it. Finally finished it after starting it in September of last year. Big thanks to Alain for all the 24 swag. Built it up as a DH hardtail but having fun with it all over the place. Even with the Monster up front, with it's short wheelbase, this thing rides up on its rear wheel almost at will. Make of it what you will!


very nice!!! i bet that thing is a blast to ride with the monsters!

[spag52]

heres one

[spag52]

another

[Warped]

this steed belongs to Wade

[spag52]

this was a le toy II or maybe a I. it had a long TT.

[VooDoo]

Thats a le toy II
The 1 has no gussets.
the two has two holes in the headtube gusset
the 3 has 3 holes in the headtube gusset.

here's a guy gt ruckus, though for some reason after repeated 7 foot to flat drops the z.1 was creaking alot
Gt Ruckus (http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic16262.jpg)

[VooDoo]

sorry here it ishttp://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic16262.jpg

[VooDoo]

Andrejs old minuteman
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic2210.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic14265.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic12807.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic10713.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic10555.jpg

[VooDoo]

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic7949.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic7935.jpg

[VooDoo]

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic7870.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic7718.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic7875.jpg
I just had to put the last one in.

[hardtail_schmuk]

here's mine:

[Atomic]

Originally posted by soulrider
hehe...nice tandem

I'd have put Monsters on it, not crappy frankenbrink :D :P

[mtbtuc8700]

Man Burly hardtails are great! I hope I can get a new one soon I can post a pic of, but the FS comes first right now.

I agree this should be a STICKY
:D

[diesel]

Originally posted by Warped
ah, my fav park bike.

wow. wow. i am speechless. never seen a pb with a dc on it. that look sick, haven't heard great things about the stratos but still....it looks so sick. gawd i want a parkbike so bad. also, its funny seeing andrejs' old mm and then looking at his new one. its amazing how hardcore the minuteman is. SOON very soon ill get mine up here...

MAKE STICKY!

[Warped]

which MM is Andrejs new one? is it the red one or the black one with the super t's?

i used to talk to him a lot about the blue one with the monsters. what board(s) has he been hangin out at?


here's another pic too.

[diesel]

what bike is that? um not sure where andrejs' been , yea i remember sein the first pics of his blue mm on mtbr. they inspired me to get a mm. i am forever thankfull. the new one is the one that looks 10x more hardcore i.e. the jr.t atomic rims etc etc (yes i kno the monster is 10X more hc than a jr.t but you gotta admit his newer one just looks WAY thicker.)

whoa! just noticed the STEM on that thing. GOOD LORD thats massive. whew!

[M.W.]

Stickify this thread!!


Heh, that way I don't have to dig around when I get the pics I took of my bike tonight developped...

Anyway, here's an oooold (last feb. or so, it's been completely dessasembled and has sat as a frame at least twice since then) pic. of it...
Right now it's got some Raceface cranks, 24" rear wheel w/ Vbrake, no front brake, 24-7 bars, a super-ghetto 1speed setup, and some other doohickeys on it...

It's not particularily burly (actually, as pictured, it weighed about 45lbs...), but it's a hardtail, so 1 out of 2...

[a13x]

Jesus a few of those bikes look like they were assembled by a deaf/dumb/and blind mountain goat.

That pink 24/7 bike? with a yellow deemax and orange fork.. UGH
the one below it.. green DW's, gray frame, and red seat/chainring? WTF are you thinking!

that nicolai reminds me of something i've seen before... it's so strange... like deja vu.. i'm sure it will come to me thou.

STICKY

[M.W.]

Originally posted by a13x
Jesus a few of those bikes look like they were assembled by a deaf/dumb/and blind mountain goat.

That pink 24/7 bike? with a yellow deemax and orange fork.. UGH
the one below it.. green DW's, gray frame, and red seat/chainring? WTF are you thinking!

that nicolai reminds me of something i've seen before... it's so strange... like deja vu.. i'm sure it will come to me thou.

STICKY


That Nicolai makes me scared... It definately has an evil presence... ;)


Speaking of ugly bikes, what's with that damn orange one with the two toptubes?? What were they thinking when they designed that!? "Oooh, one toptube is cool! Let's make 2, that'll be DOUBLE COOL!!" :D ;) j/k

[a13x]

hahah no kidding. i heard a drunk monkey sketched it on a napkin 49 years ago and some dude in boston thought i'd be a good idea. IJIOT

[roachboy]

a couple more 24's and a dekerf implant

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/dekerf4(1).jpg

http://www.bike2build.nl/morepics/24b/pornside3.jpg

http://www.bike2build.nl/morepics/24b/toyside2.jpg

[kuma]

Originally posted by Warped



very nice!!! i bet that thing is a blast to ride with the monsters!

...indescribable ride. With the slacked head angle, small wheels, and short wheelbase, it rides like a BMX bikes that likes to be tipped over. An unusual feeling but boy is it fun! I think it's the closest "feel" you can get to riding a motorcycle without actually riding one. I know because riding my toy brings back memories of my motorbike days ;)

[kuma]

Originally posted by M.W.
Stickify this thread!!
Anyway, here's an oooold (last feb. or so, it's been completely dessasembled and has sat as a frame at least twice since then) pic. of it...
Right now it's got some Raceface cranks, 24" rear wheel w/ Vbrake, no front brake, 24-7 bars, a super-ghetto 1speed setup, and some other doohickeys on it...

It's not particularily burly (actually, as pictured, it weighed about 45lbs...), but it's a hardtail, so 1 out of 2...

How'd you get it to weigh 45 lbs? I've got a Monster-T, Profile DJ cranks, 24" DW w/ 3-inch Kujos and it still only weighs 42 lbs. That must be one heavy heavy frame!

[M.W.]

Originally posted by kuma


How'd you get it to weigh 45 lbs? I've got a Monster-T, Profile DJ cranks, 24" DW w/ 3-inch Kujos and it still only weighs 42 lbs. That must be one heavy heavy frame!

The frame weighs a lot. It's pretty much a big BMX frame (made by GackBMX). It's got a really long steel seatpost. And beyond that, I have NO IDEA how I got it soo heavy. That stem is pretty hefty, and those bars weigh a ton... I dunno. When I first picked it up I just about tore my arm off cuz I was expecting it to be LIGHTER than my FS bike...

*Edit*: Oh yeah... MAKE THIS A STICKY!!!

[VooDoo]

To answer the question about Andrejs,
he goes by rollie on dropmachine.
he has a super t, he has a monster t in his basement, it has too much travel (or so he says)
his first bike http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic2210.jpg
here's his new one
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic8053.jpg http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic13419.jpg

[diesel]

yea i think all those got posted before already and i pointed out a few posts up which ones were his. but thanks for pointin out where hes been hiding all this time :p send him on over here! and tell him to send his bike to me! (ill pay shipping).

[Yuornamehere..]

heres a little sum sum i did on photoshop

[ssk]

What's the deal? I've seen a couple of Cove Stiffee's in this thread, but no Stiffee SL's. Those frames suck or something?

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Yuornamehere..
heres a little sum sum i did on photoshop

NICE!!! First photoshop mod like this that I see with both wheels level. Hey, wait a min, that's my frame!!!:D Gonna post pic ASAP of my beast. For now, here's the specs (final, I have all the parts in my basement, no I wont change anything until I get some $$ :P)

colour Flat Rally Blue
frame Kona Chute 2002
fork Marzocchi Z1 MCR 130mm travel Red/Silver
derailleur Front: Shimano Deore 34.9
Rear: Shimano Deore XT
Shifters: Front: Shimano Deore
Rear: Shimano Deore LX 9spd
BB Truvativ DH ISIS Splined
chain KMC Z920
pedals Planet X Clingon 2 Semi- Sealed white
bar Bontrager CrowBar XXX DH, 40-58mm , 28¡¨ width
stem On-One Reetard 45mm
headset WTB Grease Guard Momentum black 1 1/8" „³ FSA The Pig
grips Oury Red
brakes Fr: Hayes Purple DH Hydraulic disc brake
Rr: XTR v-brake / LX lever „³ Avid Speed Dial Lever
saddle Marzocchi Karve Black leather & kevlar w/ Red & Slvr logo
Seatpost

seat collar Kona QR Blk

rims FR: Sun Rhyno Lite Blk / RR: Sun Big Fat Mammoth Blk/Slvr
hubs FR: Formula Disc S.B. Blk / RR: Shimano Deore Blk
tires Fr: Tioga Factory DH FAT66 Kevlar 2.5"
Rr: Tioga Factory DH FAT66 Kevlar 2.1¡¨ „³Tioga Factory DH 2.3¡¨
crankset Truvativ Hussefelt ISIS 175mm 22/32/MRP
chainguide MRP Long Range Patrol 30-34T

Cassette Shimano HG 50

Cables:Shimano XTR w/ Jagwire Housings




http://www.konaworld.com/images/2k2_chute.jpg

[Yuornamehere..]

ya i liked how that turned out. im only 15 and have been working on photoshop for about two months. that only took like 5 minutes. easy one. i did that huge brooklyn one with moto fenders but my computer got a virus and i dont have it any more. i love photoshop.:D that chute is a sick bike too

[hardtail_schmuk]

BUMP! we can't let this die

[Atomic]

Originally posted by hardtail_schmuk
BUMP! we can't let this die

Maybe should we do a petition so it becomes a sticky??



WE WaNT IT TO BE A STICKY!!!!!!

[MMike]

99 red balloons

[Sam B]

Originally posted by diesel


wow. wow. i am speechless. never seen a pb with a dc on it. that look sick, haven't heard great things about the stratos but still....it looks so sick. gawd i want a parkbike so bad. also, its funny seeing andrejs' old mm and then looking at his new one. its amazing how hardcore the minuteman is. SOON very soon ill get mine up here...

MAKE STICKY!

You must not be looking very hard. I posted a pic of my Brooklyn with a Mr T, way back in this thread. Granted a 4" Mr T isn't nearly as big as a 7" (correct?) Stratos.


--Sam B

[Atomic]

Originally posted by MMike
99 red balloons

Flying in the summer sky... :D

[Warped]

Originally posted by Sam B


You must not be looking very hard. I posted a pic of my Brooklyn with a Mr T, way back in this thread. Granted a 4" Mr T isn't nearly as big as a 7" (correct?) Stratos.


--Sam B


5" it's an S5. you bike looks pretty sweet, btw

[Warped]

hey Sam, do you have any recent pics i can see? the raw finish on the fork sounds awesome

[Daman]

its not wath i call "Burly"...but its ****ing nice...and fast...its a real dual racing machine...Pat also ad funn doing back flip in the dirt comp with that ferrari PK...

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Daman
its not wath i call "Burly"...but its ****ing nice...and fast...its a real dual racing machine...Pat also ad funn doing back flip in the dirt comp with that ferrari PK...


I love this bike :Love: :love: :love:

[VooDoo]

Hey Alain, someone even beat you to it a couplepages before! But thats a different angle. I still like your bike more.

[diesel]

Originally posted by Sam B


You must not be looking very hard. I posted a pic of my Brooklyn with a Mr T, way back in this thread. Granted a 4" Mr T isn't nearly as big as a 7" (correct?) Stratos.


--Sam B

indeed i do remember this...sorry but i think your picture does it no justice which is why it slipped my mind. still nice and hardcore. id much rather have a mr. than a s5. is the geometry on the pb corrected for 24 rear wheel? or is the head angle adjusted for dual 26s? does anyone know exactly what the head angle is running a 24 rear wheel?

[psylo]

STICKY STICKY STICKY

[jodysbike]

Not the burliest but I like it. Only real complaint is that 2.25 is th biggest I can get in the Rear and I don't like my fork. Hoping for a DJ1 or a 2001 SuperT soon. I wish I had the cash for an Evil!:(:monkey: :monkey: :monkey: Sticky Please!

[Unreal]

STICKIFY MY ASS!!!!!

[Warped]

here ya go, Freak

[M.W.]

Originally posted by Unreal
STICKIFY MY ASS!!!!!

Uhm... You'll have to handle that one on your own... I ain't going near your ass...

[M.W.]

YAAY IT's a Sticky!!!

[Warped]

YES!!! Thank You!!! gotta celebrate with this sweet PK

[psylo]

just watch, now that it's sticky, nobody will reply anymore........
I feel lonely

[Sam B]

Originally posted by diesel


indeed i do remember this...sorry but i think your picture does it no justice which is why it slipped my mind. still nice and hardcore. id much rather have a mr. than a s5. is the geometry on the pb corrected for 24 rear wheel? or is the head angle adjusted for dual 26s? does anyone know exactly what the head angle is running a 24 rear wheel?

The geometery is more then corrected for a 24" wheel, it's designed around it. With a 26" the BB gets REALLLLLY high, and you have even less tire clearance than a 24" - 1.9 is about it on a 26".

I'm not enough of a crack head to actually measure my headangle, but it's probably 69 or 70 degrees with the 4" fork, 24/26 setup.

--Sam B

[Sam B]

Oh yeah...about the raw finished Marzocchi...

I don't have a camera, so no pics. For some reason the legs are grey and speckled up by the wipers but they, somewhat abruptly, turn silver below the brake bosses. Combined with my "Envy" arch, and mounted on a VERY rusted "raw" finished Brooklyn it looks really cool. The legs have oxidized as well, so my entire bike looks like it is a decade old.

--Sam B

[Warped]

Originally posted by Sam B
Oh yeah...about the raw finished Marzocchi...

I don't have a camera, so no pics. For some reason the legs are grey and speckled up by the wipers but they, somewhat abruptly, turn silver below the brake bosses. Combined with my "Envy" arch, and mounted on a VERY rusted "raw" finished Brooklyn it looks really cool. The legs have oxidized as well, so my entire bike looks like it is a decade old.

--Sam B

that sounds sweet.....if you have an opportunity, grab someone else cam and snap some pics

[Warped]

acid

[Warped]

Pat's rampage

[mtbtuc8700]

THANKS for making this a sticky, Cheif Monkey!

[Warped]

acid

[Warped]

come on guys......it's finally a sticky, POST SOME MORE PICS!! i dont have that many left....

[Warped]

acid that acadian just posted

[jodysbike]

Originally posted by Warped
acid that acadian just posted
Is that a Giant? I don't think I have ever seen that bike befor.

[M.W.]

Originally posted by jodysbike

Is that a Giant? I don't think I have ever seen that bike befor.

Yeah, it's a Giant. From what I've picked up in various other threads, it's made for the Japanese market, and Giant Canada is bringing in a few, but not Giant USA.

[M.W.]

Originally posted by Sam B

I'm not enough of a crack head to actually measure my headangle, but it's probably 69 or 70 degrees with the 4" fork, 24/26 setup.

--Sam B

LOL! You know you've got a perfectly adjusted deraileur hidden on there somewhere...

[Sam B]

Originally posted by M.W.


LOL! You know you've got a perfectly adjusted deraileur hidden on there somewhere...

That's exactly what I was thinking when I wrote that...

--Sam B

[M.W.]

Originally posted by Sam B


That's exactly what I was thinking when I wrote that...

--Sam B

LOL.

BTW, I went singlespeed on the 24-7. It's a pretty hokey setup (I pretty much took an old cassette apart, and rearanged the spacers and cogs so that everything fits, it looks pretty funny...
1speed is wicked! I was sad to ditch the blue anodized deraileur wheels though... Those were my friends. Now I've just got my blue ano. QR left.

[patcore]

heres my hardtail, since the pic ive put a planet x zebra seat and im building up a 24" double track

[big cal]

figure i may as well put her in here since it's now "sticking" around, ahh that'll do it...

[Daniel(Canada)]

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20193.jpg

[CreeP]

That sasquatch is a rocketship. It may not be beef like a Le Toy but man does it go fast. I rode it down at our local Dirt jumps (Dan had rode it down w/o his brother) and it just kept rolling and rolling.

[diesel]

Originally posted by M.W.


LOL.

BTW, I went singlespeed on the 24-7. It's a pretty hokey setup (I pretty much took an old cassette apart, and rearanged the spacers and cogs so that everything fits, it looks pretty funny...
1speed is wicked! I was sad to ditch the blue anodized deraileur wheels though... Those were my friends. Now I've just got my blue ano. QR left.

oh man yesh. that thing must be a beast to pedal around singlspeed. but yes ss is so badarse. after running ss for quite a while i needed to put gears on my minuteman just so it was more versatile but i miss it. i want t1's parkbike so i can set it up ss. theres nothing like launching a big staircase with a bunch of geared folk and you hear them hit the ground all clankie like and your landing it just 100% solid sounding....*sigh* someone "lend" me 550$?

[roachboy]

tankass from pinkbike...nice lookin setup too!

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20196.jpg

[sod8]

Not too "burly," but looks sweet:

[M.W.]

Originally posted by diesel


oh man yesh. that thing must be a beast to pedal around singlspeed. but yes ss is so badarse. after running ss for quite a while i needed to put gears on my minuteman just so it was more versatile but i miss it. i want t1's parkbike so i can set it up ss. theres nothing like launching a big staircase with a bunch of geared folk and you hear them hit the ground all clankie like and your landing it just 100% solid sounding....*sigh* someone "lend" me 550$?

It's actually not all that bad... I've lightened it up a LOT since the pic I posted, and the gearing is semi-easy (32-18 w/ 24" rear wheel)... It's definately awesome not having all that crap clanking around and waiting to be torn off back there...

[spag52]

mmmmmm:D

[Yeti DHer]

Originally posted by spag52
mmmmmm:D

is that one of those proshift rear derrailers? one of those ones that all billet or something like that?

[spag52]

i'm not sure what you mean but i remember these
CNC'd der. that cost like 200 new...might be one of those:confused:

[VooDoo]

Yep made by precision billet. Matty F has one up here in ontario *(on the first page i thin, its on a bommer with an x vert carbon) and likes it better than his xtr. There goin' for like 75 on jenson or supergo i think...

[jodysbike]

One of my riding partners bike. Santa Cruz Chameleon with a Z1 MCR.:cool:

[Atomic]

Originally posted by spag52
mmmmmm:D

Sick parts, sick frame, sick ride, must be a blast to ride, but the colour mix is soooooooooooooooooooo ugly.... maybe is he daltonian (doesnt see the colour the right way) :D :P

c ya!

[spag52]

http://www.bombenkrater.de/Bikes/Bilder/letoy3.jpg

[jodysbike]

Originally posted by spag52
http://www.bombenkrater.de/Bikes/Bilder/letoy3.jpg
MMMMMM! That bike is Soooooo nice!
I haven't seen any bikes in the consition that fits a mountain bike so here.;)

[Atomic]

Originally posted by spag52
http://www.bombenkrater.de/Bikes/Bilder/letoy3.jpg

SICK SICK I LOVE

[spag52]

hey that bike better not be that dirty all the time. i like em nice and shiny:rolleyes:

[Unreal]

Originally posted by spag52
http://www.bombenkrater.de/Bikes/Bilder/letoy3.jpg

That is one pretty bike. But if you guys only saw what I have brewing in the shop right now, I have two LeToy's partially together... oh ya :)

[ibismojo]

http://www.mtbr.com/dream/bikes/20208.html

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20634.jpg
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20635.jpg

[CreeP]

yo man where'd you get that cracked out tyre for the chainstay?

[ibismojo]

he got a new one...and let us use his old one for the chain stay. my friend has it on his eliminator as well. works nicely.

[raindog]

:D

[dhbiker]

the clif cat is the sickest hardtail ever. i hope its on bens site. that really is hardcore. i've always admired ht with a monster on it.....those that could handle it at least.:rolleyes:

[Warped]

another sweet pk

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Warped
another sweet pk


Wicked! I realy luv it.. would have put speeds on it though :D.. single speed isnt my definition of DS race bike

[CreeP]

Originally posted by ibismojo
he got a new one...and let us use his old one for the chain stay. my friend has it on his eliminator as well. works nicely.


Oh I thought it was clear rubber. I've got tiogas, they suck.




Atomic- One speed is the ****.

[ibismojo]

casing's pretty weak. they're alright...they're cheap.

[butthead]

Here's my .243 racing bike. Sorry about the picture quality, it was taken with a crappy digital camera.

[Sam B]

http://www.the5thfloor.com/jeffs/bike.jpg

That's a nice Parkbike...if it was mine, the bars would be lower, the tires would be a little smaller, and the gearing wouldn't be so ridiculously stiff. But it certainly looks cool - finally a disc mount and better tire clearance.

--Sam B

[diesel]

yes sam that is seriously a NICE pb. i love that bike so much. i cant wait till i stumble across a large sum of money, THEN IT WILL BE MINE...OH YES...IT WILL BE MINE. here ill attach it so that people can see it right on the board.

[Jon B]

Wow! Thats one sick Park Bike. Now I'm considering getting black.

I might as well add to this thread while I'm at it. Here's a pic of my old Spooky Metalhead. I'm still mad at myself for selling it. Oh well. Nothing special, but it was a fun bike:

[Warped]

WOW, i LOVE your park bike Sam. very very nice.

it looks like you got a 24" rear, is the front 26" ??

[atrokz]

Originally posted by Daman
ya..they do are pretty customable hehe...that one is very cool...its from a guy in Toronto ? working at the Bike depot i guess? yea, his name is ryan rutherford. an absolutly sick rider. rides dirt. sponsered and the whole lot. good kid too. i live right by the shop so i know.

[VooDoo]

Nope, this is Ryan's

unless thats an old pic.
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic19929.jpg

[Sam B]

Originally posted by Warped
WOW, i LOVE your park bike Sam. very very nice.

it looks like you got a 24" rear, is the front 26" ??

I don't know which picture you are refering to. But mine is/was the clearcoated one I posted back a ways. The black one I posted, Steve tipped me off to - it was on MTBR. That one isn't mine, however I was kind of thinking about plain old black for my replacement frame. Both my setup and the black one are 24/26 combos.

--Sam B

[atrokz]

Originally posted by VooDoo
Nope, this is Ryan's

unless thats an old pic.
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic19929.jpg it's the same bike

[Warped]

Originally posted by Sam B


I don't know which picture you are refering to. But mine is/was the clearcoated one I posted back a ways. The black one I posted, Steve tipped me off to - it was on MTBR. That one isn't mine, however I was kind of thinking about plain old black for my replacement frame. Both my setup and the black one are 24/26 combos.

--Sam B



ahh...well the one you had was sweet. i dunno if you posted a description or not with the other, i just looked at the pic then saw your name. i figured you had already gotten a new one. for your replacement...i think the black frame with the decals that have yellow looks sweet...

[dhbiker]

Originally posted by atrokz
it's the same bike

first of all, that bike is SWEET
second, what is he have for bars on it, and what is model is that rear tire? never seen it before.

[atrokz]

Originally posted by dhbiker


first of all, that bike is SWEET
second, what is he have for bars on it, and what is model is that rear tire? never seen it before.
1:yes that bike is sweet. i've got basicly the same set up on mine.
2:bars are dmr "wing" bars. 2.5 or 2.75 inch rise, cr-mo. i've got the same ones. sweet bars.
3:kenda collossal. 2.6. cheap but good dh tyres.

hope that helps.

[VooDoo]

yep, DMR 3 inch rise wingbar, cromo.
Kenda 2.65 tire, comes in 24 and 26 inch. All headford uses now ( one of the best street riders in ontario)

[Atomic]

Now mine belongs here too :D

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20999.jpg

[Warped]

Originally posted by Atomic
Now mine belongs here too :D

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20999.jpg

awesome bike, man!! that thing looks like a blast.

[Yeti DHer]

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/CoveSideFront2.jpg

2001 Cove Stiffee FR

[axel]

Originally posted by Yeti DHer
http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/CoveSideFront2.jpg

2001 Cove Stiffee FR
looks nice, how do u like the fox fork?

[Sam B]

Originally posted by Warped


awesome bike, man!! that thing looks like a blast.

Are those the Magnesium Primo pedals? Or just the silver ones...

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Sam B


Are those the Magnesium Primo pedals? Or just the silver ones...

These are the Planet X Clingon 2 Pedals, in WHITE :D the finish is so darn good... plus is looks very unusual hehe

Warped: Thanks! :thumb: ! I tried it a bit on the parking lot today and on thursday (when I got it), and IT'S a blast! Bunny hop like a full suspension, 10lbs BMX with 6 inch of travel with rebound set to the fastest :P

[J.R.B]

My buddies 24 le toy

[Atomic]

A bit too much trials for me.. But 24 frames are sure sweeeeeet!

[Atomic]

Here ya go.. For the 3rd time, my sweet chute :D

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic21275.jpg

Next step on it is a XTR or XT rear der., a 321/XT front wheel, a rear Hayes hydro, and *maybe* a 24" rear, but it's more than unsure..

[How]

Wait a sec... that looks like a 6" travel Sid XLC... (on the tal)

[Ian F]

I just finished building this bike up for friend tonight. Pieced together on a budget so some of the parts wouldn't stand up to a lot of abuse, but she wanted the bike together as quickly as possible and doesn't have a lot of money to spend. Even so, it has taken three months to get to this day...

Azonic DS-1
Marzocchi Z-1 Wedge
Tank headset
Azonic bars
FSA Power-Pro cranks
Deore drivetrain
LX/Rhyno Lite wheels
DHRings.com guide
Avid Single-digit 3 brakes.

The bike went together reasonably well. The most annoying part was getting the DHrings chainring on the cranks as the tolerances were a bit off... but after quite a bit of file-work, it was persuaded to fit.

Up next, Hulkamaniac's PX Bommer... That should turn out really sweet and quite worth of pics... hopefully... :rolleyes: