Help with some burly hardtail pics...

[Warped]

that looks really nice. how much did it all add up to??

[Ian F]

Originally posted by Warped
that looks really nice. how much did it all add up to??

Not 100% sure... some of it she already had (wheels, tires, seat, pedals, stem) and she bought the frame 2nd hand although never built. She's member of my team, and got the fork through our Marzocchi grass-roots sponsorship program... All told, I guess she has a bit more than $1000 into it.

[diesel]

FINALLY i get the digicam. canon s3 for those interested. here are two kinda big pics of my bike. you might remember me from ben@unreals bike pr0n page. pink glitter grips box of corona. yea thats me singlespeed....but ss no longer, here is minuteman v1.8 complete with beer.

http://osf1.gmu.edu/~jmarney/beer.jpg
http://osf1.gmu.edu/~jmarney/clutter.jpg

if the second one is obnoxiously big lemme know.

[Jon B]

diesel,

couple small questions. What grips are you runing now? and what front hub is that?

[diesel]

the intense odi lockons
and its the marz. qr20plus hub.

[Atomic]

Originally posted by How
Wait a sec... that looks like a 6" travel Sid XLC... (on the tal)

nope, it's an old Judy XLC.. That's what he said to me (he was at the Info-Bike show in quebec)

[dhbiker]

Originally posted by Acadian
Taillefer Zarma Jump
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic21361.jpg

those bikes look sick, do they have a site? how much travel does the dh version get?

[vernon]

I believe that their website is at:

http://www.taillefer-bicycles.com/

[diesel]

ACK! updated andre minuteman! couple others i came across on the pinkbike.com

http://osf1.gmu.edu/~jmarney/asmm.jpg
sweet px
http://osf1.gmu.edu/~jmarney/planetx.jpg
ss gimp
http://osf1.gmu.edu/~jmarney/gimp.jpg

[Yuornamehere..]

must keep it goin. another comin out of my shop....

[Yuornamehere..]

Originally posted by soulrider
I like that PX, especially the switch drivetrain:D

i think you were joking but i the pic has been reversed.

[Yuornamehere..]

wow, i didnt see that :D

[diesel]

what fasion tragedy is this!! and could someone explain to me how the new minuteman dropouts could possibly be stronger than the old style. i know nothing of frame design, but they just look so much more weak.

http://osf1.gmu.edu/~jmarney/gbalfa.jpg



and this is a "spy" never seen something like this before.
http://osf1.gmu.edu/~jmarney/spy.jpg

[PGR]

That last green one looks very much like a DMR Trailstar, without stickers. Also that green one has a huge headtube gusset. The Trailstars usually don't have that. Otherwise, it's got the same "dents" in the chainstays, same skinny tubing and the same seatpost clamp (they come with the frame).

I can also see that it's a newer model, as it has 24-26 inch compatible brake mounts. The little red thingies...

Maybe it's one of those new long travel versions, hence the gusset.

[Ian F]

Originally posted by diesel
what fasion tragedy is this!!

ACK!!! Turn it off! Turn it off!! :help: I'm blind!!! :eek:

...who said the 80's would never come back... :think:

The colors look like they might be "off"... I've never seen a red Mr T before...

[Erci]

Here's mine..

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/Erci'sJFRAD.jpg

I took the guide off and just run it with a bashring now. MRP is not exactly great for urban.

P.S. (Yes, Acadian, I know the boomerang is not supposed to be set up like that ;) )

[mtbiac]

the bright red goes well with that ultra bright green ;)

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Erci
Here's mine..

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/Erci'sJFRAD.jpg

I took the guide off and just run it with a bashring now. MRP is not exactly great for urban.

P.S. (Yes, Acadian, I know the boomerang is not supposed to be set up like that ;) )

That's a F-ing sweet bike! Congrats bro :thumb:.. I really love it, seriously..Is this fork a Z3 or Z1? What's up with those brake booster? really thin! C ya!

[bomberz1qr20]

My XC bike. Is this considered "burly"?

:rolleyes:

[Atomic]

Originally posted by bomberz1qr20
My XC bike. Is this considered "burly"?

:rolleyes:

YES!

[axel]

Originally posted by bomberz1qr20
My XC bike. Is this considered "burly"?

:rolleyes:
definatly!

[Mitzel123]

Originally posted by bomberz1qr20
My XC bike. Is this considered "burly"?

:rolleyes:

of course

[Yuornamehere..]

just found on purplebike.com

[axel]

Originally posted by Yuornamehere..
just found on purplebike.com
wow....that looks pretty nice....purplebike.com huh?

[diesel]

Originally posted by bomberz1qr20
My XC bike. Is this considered "burly"?

:rolleyes:

lord. hells yea. you must be a BEAST z1!! atomic wheels on the xc singlespeed. that is hardcore my friend. man, everytime i see a sc cham. it makes me want my old one back. its such a sweet frame. i love how ya got the massive dhrings bashguard on the xc bike! killer.

[bomberz1qr20]

Originally posted by diesel


lord. hells yea. you must be a BEAST z1!! atomic wheels on the xc singlespeed. that is hardcore my friend. man, everytime i see a sc cham. it makes me want my old one back. its such a sweet frame. i love how ya got the massive dhrings bashguard on the xc bike! killer.

A beast? Well I smelled like one after huffing this tank up the hills today. I don't have a car so it's a good extra 45 minutes of climbing the road to the trailhead. And oh yes, I walked it a couple of times!

I can feel the extra pounds I gained over the winter just fleeing in terror...:D

[Unreal]

Originally posted by bomberz1qr20
My XC bike. Is this considered "burly"?

:rolleyes:

That's what I was building those wheels up for? Somebody ought to pass that bike some medicine... couse it's SICK!!! Wow, that’s the meanest XC bike I’ve ever seen. Looks like massive fun!

[Daniel(Canada)]

Originally posted by diesel


and this is a "spy" never seen something like this before.
http://osf1.gmu.edu/~jmarney/spy.jpg

Could that be a Dekerf Implant?

And I actually love the green.

[CreeP]

not if you look at the seatstays Dan.

[spag52]

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic22009.jpg

[axel]

that 243 looks sick

[diesel]

yesh THAT is how you build a 243.. schweet! is that a 24" rear?

[bomberz1qr20]

Dat .243 iz fun-o-matic!

[Erci]

Originally posted by Atomic


That's a F-ing sweet bike! Congrats bro :thumb:.. I really love it, seriously..Is this fork a Z3 or Z1? What's up with those brake booster? really thin! C ya!

Fork is a Z1 MCR reduced to 4". Boosters are Salsa. They're pretty beefy. I cannot make my brakes flex even if I try. NICE Chameleon, man!

[Timmy Turtle]

A couple of burly gimps from sweden! (the blue one will be mine in 4-6 working days, just loves the long wait when transfering money from paypal to your bankaccount) :D
http://hem.passagen.se/koredh/mattias/Gimp6.JPG

http://hem.passagen.se/koredh/henke/DSC00004.JPG

A few more of the blue one (http://hem.passagen.se/koredh/henke/)
A few more of the black one (http://hem.passagen.se/koredh/bilder.htm)

[diesel]

yur pics aren't workin. id love to see that blue one you were talking about in the other thread.

[bru]

It's about time I throw mine in here. The frame is for sale by the way

[Timmy Turtle]

i think they work now.

EDIT very weird, they work sometimes for me, adn sometimes they are just a red x

[localhucker]

heres a pic of a 2001 stiffee sl its not the best but its a very good frame and i want it

[Atomic]

wow.. 3 days without a post.. is it me or is this thread dying? :( C"mon people, dont let it die! Post pics!

[Hydraulicman]

Not mine, but here's one

http://www.bike2build.nl/morepics/24b/2002pornkingside.jpg

[Warped]

this may have already been posted..oh well...

Keep posting pics!!!!

[Warped]

here's the Evil that whoever it is on this board (bostonbulli????:confused: ) is testing or whatever

[Warped]

my favorite orange ht

[axel]

Originally posted by Warped
my favorite orange ht
that looks nice, but whats up with the front disc rotor and hydro rim brake?:confused:

[Warped]

Originally posted by axel

that looks nice, but whats up with the front disc rotor and hydro rim brake?:confused:

he prolly messed up the brake and didnt wanna hafta take the wheel off to remove the rotor.

[Warped]

come on guys....

[Warped]

pretty sweet cove.

[diesel]

http://sdf.lonestar.org/~synack/photo/01snipes.jpg
http://sdf.lonestar.org/~synack/photo/02snipes.jpg
http://sdf.lonestar.org/~synack/photo/03snipes.jpg

[manimal]

my old kona hardtail Trails/DS/Urban bike that i traded to my brother for a '88 toyota pickup....sweet deal if you ask me!

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Hydraulicman
Not mine, but here's one

http://www.bike2build.nl/morepics/24b/2002pornkingside.jpg

I REALLY dig the frame colour/decals combination :love: !! Just swap the fork, and you're done!

[mtbtuc8700]

Keep the pics coming!

[psylo]

is that an RST fork on the green PK? *auuuuuggggghhh**vomit**aaaaaaauuuuuggghh*

[Warped]

Originally posted by psylo
is that an RST fork on the green PK? *auuuuuggggghhh**vomit**aaaaaaauuuuuggghh*


psylo, it is a Psylo....

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Warped



psylo, it is a Psylo....

ya,^psylo XC 2001, CRAP

[M.W.]

Originally posted by axel

that looks nice, but whats up with the front disc rotor and hydro rim brake?:confused:

Sometimes I run a disc rotor and no front brake cuz I only have 1 front wheel and 2 bikes... Maybe it's something like that.

I hate when I'm riding my HT and people come up and say stuff like "Why do you run a rotor with no brake? Are you trying to be cool?" It makes me angry and gives me a strong urge to punch them in their face.

Edit: I really like the looks of that Stiffy SL on the previous page...

[CreeP]

http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/SO24.jpg

[Warped]

are the tires on that silver Le Toy in the background Ritchey??

[mtbtuc8700]

Yes, thats there new 2.35 tire, I forget the name.

[Warped]

sweet nicolai

[Atomic]

Originally posted by mtbtuc8700
Yes, thats there new 2.35 tire, I forget the name.

VFA Motovader I think

[Moogie]

hey, i have a trek 7000 year 2000. yes it is supremely ghetto. let me stress that again SUPREMLY GHETTO. i have crank issues, and ben from unreal should be getting me some soon. DONT BASH ON CRAPPY BIKES! (xept costco, kmart etc bikes) we iz poor in the ghetto. yes it has held up to my 6 footers. i dont have a picture cause my cameras not working. sorry. soon the ghetto machine will come to life!!!!!!
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0 (this is what my cranks look like)
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[SlackBoy]

There ain't nowt better than a DMR spesh one in action.
This is my lil baby, was riding a fully but do'nt have the coin to get new chains, deraileur hangers etc etc and race, so back to the trusty DMR, and on go the RST XXL forks, running magura on rear (thats non disk), yes it is a bottle cage, I did tail end charlie for a XC race the week before, plus it was hot and i didn't ahve my camelbak with me so i needed water at the top of the hill for the mandatory long wait, ANd a set of full old school XTR cranks (from second generation so plenty old but super strong), Clips for racing, flats for fun


http://www.krankin.co.nz/images/Rotorua_Nationals/DSC01629.JPG

[Dinsy]

Originally posted by SlackBoy
There ain't nowt better than a DMR spesh one in action.
This is my lil baby, was riding a fully but do'nt have the coin to get new chains, deraileur hangers etc etc and race, so back to the trusty DMR, and on go the RST XXL forks, running magura on rear (thats non disk), yes it is a bottle cage, I did tail end charlie for a XC race the week before, plus it was hot and i didn't ahve my camelbak with me so i needed water at the top of the hill for the mandatory long wait, ANd a set of full old school XTR cranks (from second generation so plenty old but super strong), Clips for racing, flats for fun


http://www.krankin.co.nz/images/Rotorua_Nationals/DSC01629.JPG

My god Its FRANKENSTEIN.

[Dinsy]

Originally posted by Warped
sweet nicolai

where HAVE I seen that before?

[AleX-N]

Originally posted by spag52
http://www.bombenkrater.de/Bikes/Bilder/letoy3.jpg



hello

nice that all of you like my bike so much.
if you want i can post my style pornking too.

cheers alex

[PGR]

Well, go ahead with the PornKing! And that LeToy is nice!

[Johnsben01]

That green Snipes is sweet lookin'! I wouldn't mind takin' that beast for a ride.

[Ctfphotos]

What's up with all the hardtails with downhill forks? Hope you guys enjoy back pain and retarded geometry.

[Ctfphotos]

Originally posted by obiwan-f1moto
This bike hasn't been photographed much standing still, but there are some good dirtjump pics of it. Actually a couple were on the board today.

Chainstays are set at 15.7 in this pic, has a Z1 MCR, and 2.3 Gazzy freeride tires (which measure bigger actually, the tires are pretty nice). This frame also rocks the Evil guide, Profiles, Stealth hubs, SRAM drivetrain, and FSA skypilot. Titec post, Funn seat, and prototype Evil Stem on board too.

Is that before or after I killed it?

[Dinsy]

agh its a tennis ball with wheels!:D

[Ctfphotos]

Damn straight! OG Pitboss tennis ball! Still representing Spooky after four years of beating!

[bomberz1qr20]

Originally posted by Ctfphotos
What's up with all the hardtails with downhill forks? Hope you guys enjoy back pain and retarded geometry.

Actually I have less back pain with a longer travel fork, (who knew?) and the more "retarded" geometry allows me to do more "retarded" things...

Try a hardtail with a big fork sometime, you know what they say:

"Once you go retarded, your old bike's discarded!":rolleyes:

[diesel]

Originally posted by Ctfphotos
What's up with all the hardtails with downhill forks? Hope you guys enjoy back pain and retarded geometry.

What's up with all the hardtails with horrid-80's-ferris-buler's-day-off-fashion statements? Hope you guys enjoy sore eyes and being called retarded.

[bomberz1qr20]

Originally posted by diesel


What's up with all the hardtails with horrid-80's-ferris-buler's-day-off-fashion statements? Hope you guys enjoy sore eyes and being called retarded.

I've seen that pic on here before, I think it's the "obnoxious for obnoxious sake" thing with the paint job, (punk!) and the Iron Horse decal on a Spooky, well that's just funny.

[diesel]

hehe yea yea i GUESS i get it....not really. i was just bustin balls coz he was bustin balls :p just havin fun. i say if ya ride it and its hardcore and hardtail then its all good, even if you look like a tennis ball on crack.

[Warped]

this thing is hella sweet

[VooDoo]

Originally posted by Ctfphotos
What's up with all the hardtails with downhill forks? Hope you guys enjoy back pain and retarded geometry.
Hey, i've seen that bike in MBA. Sweet! With the Underworld headset, 3 piece cranks, gack sprocket, tioga 2.5 dh tires and truvativ system 2 chainguide?

[psylo]

Yeah... what he said!

[Unreal]

Originally posted by Ctfphotos
What's up with all the hardtails with downhill forks? Hope you guys enjoy back pain and retarded geometry.

that Spooky is PUNK ROCK!!!

[Dinsy]

ahahah ya, youre iron horse spooky bastard child rules!

[SlackBoy]

Dinsy, sort ya life out and this sunday at Baxters knob, bring a shovel or a rake and your bike and help grooming the jumps, we have to shape the big jump and the ones for the DJ comp for the awesome 4some and then we will be riding stuff in heaps. Prolly be a few impromtu 4 man races. And I heard tonight from peter that he put in a road jump as well

I'll show ya how my mutant monster can whup yo ass, and I might ride my bike as well

[Erci]

No idea who's this is, but I just saw it on Pinkbike. DAMN that's good lookin

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23215.jpg

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Erci
No idea who's this is, but I just saw it on Pinkbike. DAMN that's good lookin

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23215.jpg

It's the factory Cortina 4130 slalom, very nice!

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Acadian
and

WOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11 That's REALLY beeyootyfool :D !!!!! Just switch the fork to a Forx or a Zokes, and you're done ! :p nah kidding on this, it's hella sweet just (!) like this. Congrats!

[Warped]

wow, those pics are much better than the others. you have the best P-X ever built. i never realized how beefy lookin that frame is..

[PGR]

Originally posted by Acadian
more recent pics of my babie!!
http://gallery.consumerreview.com/webcrossing/images/RightSide.jpg

Acadian: How tall are you? With that 21" TT I'd sure feel quite cramped...

[axel]

Originally posted by Warped
you have the best P-X ever built.
it is a reallllllllly nice PX....but im not going to lie, i cant agree that it is the best ever when i have ridden better!:eek:

[Yuornamehere..]

Originally posted by Acadian


what have you ridden that was better?? IMPOSSIBLE ;)

ya...

[Yuornamehere..]

you dissin my ride? no photoshop here;) its photoimpact. ya whatever ima dork

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Acadian


PHOTOIMPACT!!! ouch...that hurts!
Why? :confused: I dont know this software.. But I still luv your rig Luc!

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Acadian


check yer PM...

did! I didnt know that :p... Yah you're right, Chevys are the toughest of them all! ;)

[axel]

Originally posted by Acadian


what have you ridden that was better?? IMPOSSIBLE ;)
it was actually a friend of mines PX...he didnt have the $$ for 2 bikes, so he built up jus about the sickest PXs ever....JFC frame, 02 psylo sl, arrow 24" rims and tires, hayes, RF NS 165 cranks, chubby bars, cube stem, XTR der, lx shifter, intense lock ons, blackspire, etc, etc, etc i like it very much

[diesel]

i wouldnt say a psylo is the sickest...:devil:

[diesel]

yea ive heard some people are happy with em' ive just been saved by a marzoc. so many times...i think im in love :p seriously ive been considering getting a marz. tattoo hehe. but yea a fox would rule for ds. do you ride a lot of urban with your px? or just like dj/ds?

[axel]

Originally posted by diesel
i wouldnt say a psylo is the sickest...:devil:
i agree...but the bike is just so nice...

[Ian F]

Joe Cool stopped by my place and I snapped a couple of shots of his newly rebuilt hardtail - it qualifies as "burly"... she recently recieved some good lovin' from BikeSHopBob in the form of new rims (Atomlabs), new Profile cranks, and disc brakes. The bike is SOLID.

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23403.jpg

another shot:

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23402.jpg

coming soon... Hulkamaniac's PX Bommer... stay tuned! ;)

[sod8]

I have not seen every pic in this thread, so if these have already been posted, I apologize:

[sod8]

another:

[Atomic]

I really dig the last DMR, with the Z1 dual.. beauty!

[Atomic]

Oh, I forgot, where can I get those Duro tires?? I heard they're cheap and really nice..

[sod8]

Originally posted by Atomic
I really dig the last DMR, with the Z1 dual.. beauty!
Really? I actually like the looks of the first one a lot better. That black chrome paint looks beautiful.

[axel]

Originally posted by sod8

Really? I actually like the looks of the first one a lot better. That black chrome paint looks beautiful.
ive gotta agree...at least for looks, and yea, about those Duro tires, they look nice, anywhere online that sells them?

[axel]

oh, and are both those DMRs with 24" wheels? it looks like to to me but i cant tell that good...

[Warped]

post #500 for me:D

[sod8]

Originally posted by axel

ive gotta agree...at least for looks, and yea, about those Duro tires, they look nice, anywhere online that sells them?
From a quick Google search I found this
http://www.dhlab.co.nz/products/DURO/Duro.htm

[sod8]

Originally posted by axel
oh, and are both those DMRs with 24" wheels? it looks like to to me but i cant tell that good...
Yes they are both 24" wheels, there are a few more pics here:
http://www.dmrbikes.com go under "Bike Build-Ups"

[Warped]

another sweet .243

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23561.jpg

[Warped]

nice ruckus

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23558.jpg

[diesel]

i ate TOO MUCH SUSHI last night whew...ok

RICHS SURLY
http://sdf.lonestar.org/~synack/photo/surly.jpg
LAMAS 243
http://sdf.lonestar.org/~synack/photo/243.jpg

[Warped]

Originally posted by diesel
i ate TOO MUCH SUSHI last night whew...ok

RICHS SURLY
http://sdf.lonestar.org/~synack/photo/surly.jpg
LAMAS 243
http://sdf.lonestar.org/~synack/photo/243.jpg

NICE!! that is the sweetest Surly i have ever seen! the .243 is awesome!

[axel]

Originally posted by diesel
i ate TOO MUCH SUSHI last night whew...ok

RICHS SURLY

those are both sweet bikes...but just one question, why mammoth front and atomic rear rims on both? just wondering...maybe sumthing i dont know about

[diesel]

ones a mammoth ones a rhyno lyte and its just pure coincidence. if you look at my balfa i too am running alabs rear / rhynolyte front...and the thing you dont know about is that the atomlabs wheel is SICK! and can take the beating a hardtail wails out on a rear wheel (which is why we all have em :p plus we are all to poor for front ones hehe)

[Shortbus]

Wassap people,


Am gonna rebuild my 14" Azonic DS1 that's been hybernating in my living room for 6 months now... I am planning to put a 01 Super T on it (6" fork), do you guys know if that frame can take the stress of a long fork like that???

I'm getting the parts I need in a week, and also have a 4" Z3qr20 that I don't use, but I would rather ride the Super T if the frame can take it....


Anyone have any experience with the DS1 and long travel DTCs?

I really am not impressed with the DS1 at all by the way (none of the 3 frames I got my hands on were welded straight), but it's something for now until I can afford a nicer HT....


Thanks!

Christian =)

By the way, twas awesome riding with everyone on Gambrill 2 days ago!!! I had to leave early coz I crashed on Death trail and knocked my head a little where I wasn't feeling too well.... Its all better now tho :-D
Maybe next time you'll see me on the hardtail.... :)

[Warped]

is it just me or does this first Pornking look kinda weird??

http://media.dropmachine.com/data/9pornkin.jpg

http://www.bike2build.nl/morepics/24b/2002pornkingside.jpg(for comparison)

[a13x]

Originally posted by VooDoo

Hey, i've seen that bike in MBA. Sweet! With the Underworld headset, 3 piece cranks, gack sprocket, tioga 2.5 dh tires and truvativ system 2 chainguide?


must paid someone off at MBA cause it sure wouldn't get in any other way. wait.. i have had my picture in MBA too.... maybe it was 'suckage' week ;)

rehhehehe:cool:

some of these hardtails are mad sketchy lookin!

[Dinsy]

Originally posted by SlackBoy
Dinsy, sort ya life out and this sunday at Baxters knob, bring a shovel or a rake and your bike and help grooming the jumps, we have to shape the big jump and the ones for the DJ comp for the awesome 4some and then we will be riding stuff in heaps. Prolly be a few impromtu 4 man races. And I heard tonight from peter that he put in a road jump as well

I'll show ya how my mutant monster can whup yo ass, and I might ride my bike as well

bikes in pieces, was this last sunday?

are you sayin I dont ride my bike? you have no idea what I do, just because I dont ride with you and those guys doesnt mean I dont ride :rolleyes:

[a13x]

Originally posted by SlackBoy
I'll show ya how my mutant monster can whup yo ass, and I might ride my bike as well

What's Ghettoman doing coming round here talking all types of Dump.... pffffffffffffffffffft

[Johnsben01]

Since when does Ghetto-man ride burly hardtails, I thought he only rode motocross bikes in Crusty 4. Although he was riding in downtown Brooklyn which could be considered urban riding.

[M.W.]

Originally posted by a13x



must paid someone off at MBA cause it sure wouldn't get in any other way. wait.. i have had my picture in MBA too.... maybe it was 'suckage' week ;)

rehhehehe:cool:

some of these hardtails are mad sketchy lookin!

Maybe YOU were "paying them off" a bit during this "suckage" week.. Eh? *nudge nudge, wink wink*:eek:

:D

[ghettorigged]

my fave is definately the pure power.... not only is it very picturesque but I love the flat back frame and the fork

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Warped
is it just me or does this first Pornking look kinda weird??

http://media.dropmachine.com/data/9pornkin.jpg

http://www.bike2build.nl/morepics/24b/2002pornkingside.jpg(for comparison)

It looks pretty good, I think.. I really luv those electric oranges stickers over the mat black paint!!!

[VooDoo]

heh that's Dave's Pornking, it's for sale, cheap...

[Unreal]

Originally posted by Atomic


It looks pretty good, I think.. I really luv those electric oranges stickers over the mat black paint!!!

are those decals bright orange, or are they just the red reflective ones bouncing back the camera's flash?

I *swear* the geometery of that frame is whacked, somehow diffrent then a normal PK, but I just cant put my finger on it...

[Atomic]

Yah you're right Ben! Thos decals are the red ones, and the geometry looks diff..

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Acadian


it almost look like the image of the top PK was transformed in Photoshop but withouth keeping the proportions and was resized from the left side, thus the chinstay looks shorter??

Photoshop expert here!

[VooDoo]

no photoshop on the pic... i know...

[Unreal]

Originally posted by Acadian


it almost look like the image of the top PK was transformed in Photoshop but withouth keeping the proportions and was resized from the left side, thus the chinstay looks shorter??

I'm starting to think it's just an optical illusion caused by the brick pattern background.

[spag52]

what seat is on that first PK?

[Yuornamehere..]

i dont think its photoshopped. i think it just looks deceiving. that must have been done by a profesionla to mamke it look that good.

[VooDoo]

wait, i know, it's the XL size frame. see the top of the top tube where it meets the seat tube, on the black one it's at the same level as the top of the tire, on the green one it's below the top of the tire. XL AND S!

[bomberz1qr20]

Originally posted by Yuornamehere..
i dont think its photoshopped. i think it just looks deceiving. that must have been done by a profesionla to mamke it look that good.

As I realized recently, some snapshot cameras do f***ed up things. My girlfriend's camera has this lop-sided fish eye thing going on. Check the rear wheel on my new bike. The camera makes it look like I have a 24" in the front and a 29" in the back!!

[psylo]

Originally posted by Atomic


It looks pretty good, I think.. I really luv those electric oranges stickers over the mat black paint!!!
Ditto!

[psylo]

http://pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20092.jpg

[psylo]

http://pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20091.jpg

[psylo]

http://pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20796.jpg

[psylo]

http://pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23098.jpg

[kuma]

Originally posted by bomberz1qr20


As I realized recently, some snapshot cameras do f***ed up things. My girlfriend's camera has this lop-sided fish eye thing going on. Check the rear wheel on my new bike. The camera makes it look like I have a 24" in the front and a 29" in the back!!

The lop-sidedness you are seeing is due to perspective. This is a common occurance when using wide angle lenses for objects close to the lens. Because a wide lens "sees" so closely, distances are totally blown out of proportion. Likewise, if you took a photo with a telephoto lens, you expeience what is call compression. You know all those pics you see of NYC with all the people literally jammed up against each other? A telephoto will exaggerate that effect just as a wide-angle can distort close objects. It's a popular photo-journalism technique for environmental/working portraits. The subjects remains big while capturing all of the scene behind it as well. I've seem this technique put to GOOD use in DHing.

[Unreal]

Originally posted by Acadian
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23953.jpg

Dude, what the heck is that?!?!:confused: :confused: :confused:

[Unreal]

Originally posted by Acadian

PS: don't you ever sleep ;) you are worst than I am..hahah

I usually get some sleep sometime between 4-10am. Usually. My wheel builder didn't leave until an hour ago though, that dude's a riot. Got a bunch of wheels punched out though. I was just replying to some e-mail before getting to sleep.

So any idea what that bike's about? I think I like the rear dropouts, but those mega-gussets and the headtube juntion is fugly, even for a guy like me!

That looks like a RAD knock-off tubest to me.

[schaefdog]

Banshee. A new company out of Victoria I believe. They make a Kona Look alike and another HT frame without as many gussets. they offer a 10 year warranty on their frames and the head tube is 10mm thick. Seem like good bikes for a 10 year warranty.

[PGR]

Originally posted by Unreal
Dude, what the heck is that?!?!:confused: :confused: :confused:

They should have painted it poopoo brown...

[ghettorigged]

here's one... belongs to Lama

[diesel]

actually i already posted that :p along with richs surly. look in the page before this.

[peter6061]

Okay, so you guys with your pics got me all psyched to go out and get a DS frame again, since I sold my old one a couple years ago. I checked out all your pics, and specs on different frames. Got a Z1, MRP slalom and some new hayes at home for something as well a good mix of XT/XTR. Which frame would you buy if you didn't have one already. Kinda liked the pictures of the DMR trailstar with the 24"er's. Where can you buy one if you live in the states?

Don't know if I'd race it, but I might. Mostly it would just be fun bike for jumps and sh*t.

[PGR]

Originally posted by peter6061
Okay, so you guys with your pics got me all psyched to go out and get a DS frame again, since I sold my old one a couple years ago. I checked out all your pics, and specs on different frames. Got a Z1, MRP slalom and some new hayes at home for something as well a good mix of XT/XTR. Which frame would you buy if you didn't have one already. Kinda liked the pictures of the DMR trailstar with the 24"er's. Where can you buy one if you live in the states?

Don't know if I'd race it, but I might. Mostly it would just be fun bike for jumps and sh*t.

DMR are distributed in North America by Norco. I don't know of any shops that carry them, though...

A Cortina 4130 is not far from the DMR, geometry wise. Also the material is the same and the price is most likely very close.

[diesel]

id buy a parkbike or a letoy if i didnt already have my fin sweet minuteman. but ONLY if i had a minuteman. hehe

[peter6061]

Thanks a lot...

I'll check those out. I've forgotten how much 'fun' I had on mine before.

[vernon]

Originally posted by schaefdog
Banshee. A new company out of Victoria I believe. They make a Kona Look alike and another HT frame without as many gussets. they offer a 10 year warranty on their frames and the head tube is 10mm thick. Seem like good bikes for a 10 year warranty.

If you guys are interested, I recently contacted Banshee and got the specs of the freeride and hardtail bikes. The specs are on this link:

http://www.bikesutra.com/bansheebikes.html

Cheers!

[Cheers]

My Planet-x, burlier than before....since my last pic, I added a FSA Pig headset and a Planet-X Goliath Crankset with a 36 blackspire Middle Ring and a 24 tooth Blackspire Chuck Granny, I also put on some Easton Flatboy pedals.

[Cheers]

Pic two......see next post

[Cheers]

Right here

[mtbtuc8700]

Acadian,
What did you do to post the last pic? I tried but it was too big and I didn't want to have to go resize it. Any trick you could tell me.
Thanks.

[Yuornamehere..]

how do you actualyy host it. i have no clue how to do that type of stuff. pleas explain

[Yuornamehere..]

like this?

[Warped]

Originally posted by Yuornamehere..
how do you actualyy host it. i have no clue how to do that type of stuff. pleas explain

If you're using Internet Explorer, right click on the image and click on "Properties." you will see an address in the gray box that pops up.....just copy and paste that link into the text box that pops up when you click on the "IMG" button in the post reply section of this site.

For Opera...just right click and click on the "copy image address" or whatever it says and paste it in the same spot here.

[Intense Biker]

Sinister is a local company out of Boston that makes some really nice, beafy hardtails. I would love to get one, but the frame alone costs somewhere around 1000 bucks so it's a bit out of my price range. Too Bad:( :(

[BOUCH]

my bike

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic20617.jpg

[diesel]

thats one HOT balfa. what type of riding do you do? i noticed you are sporting just a rear break, was thinking of doing that myself...

[Yuornamehere..]

Originally posted by Warped


If you're using Internet Explorer, right click on the image and click on "Properties." you will see an address in the gray box that pops up.....just copy and paste that link into the text box that pops up when you click on the "IMG" button in the post reply section of this site.

For Opera...just right click and click on the "copy image address" or whatever it says and paste it in the same spot here.

ima try forgive me if it dont workhttp://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24085.jpg

[axel]

those sinisters look real damn nice....too bad there so expensive

[BOUCH]

Originally posted by diesel
thats one HOT balfa. what type of riding do you do? i noticed you are sporting just a rear break, was thinking of doing that myself...

I mostly do dirt jumps and urban/skatepark riding. Shore too but not as often. I only have a back break in the picture because i snapped my Z.3 in half and had to borrow my friends Z1 (in the picture) for a while and it didnt have a disc brake mount. Marzocchi wouldnt waratnee my fork so now i have a borrowed pair of judys on it. :(

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic19874.jpg

[Ian F]

Originally posted by BOUCH
Marzocchi wouldnt waratnee my fork so now i have a borrowed pair of judys on it. :(

:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

They didn't warranty that? Didn't you tell them you were JRA?

Dude - if the stanchions snap like that, it's from abuse and not something any fork maker would cover under warranty... I'd hang that sucker up as a trophy!

[spag52]

:eek: thats such a beefy le toy

[Unreal]

Originally posted by Acadian
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24213.jpg

that thing is.... beyond.... words.... my.... gawd.... hellllllll yaaaaaa!!!!!

[BOUCH]

Originally posted by Ian F


:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

They didn't warranty that? Didn't you tell them you were JRA?

Dude - if the stanchions snap like that, it's from abuse and not something any fork maker would cover under warranty... I'd hang that sucker up as a trophy!
lol yeah, i wasnt expecting them to warantee it or anything. Airbomb was quite amazed when i brought the fork into them. They thought i had it on a downhill bike :confused:. They didnt snap from me running into a tree or from me screwing up. They just snapped when i landed off a jump. I didnt even case it! But oh well now i have no more money so i need a job to get some new forks. Oh and im dumb :p what does JRA stand for.

[diesel]

JRA = just riding along. its what happens to most peoples stuff when the huck themselves off of huge drops to flat :p


i was just riding along...*cough*cough*off this huge stair gap*cough*cough*...AND BAM!

[diesel]

not exactly sure WHAT this is. ya gotta love the duct taped on downtube protector....innntheegheetooo...

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24318.jpg

[Atomic]

Originally posted by diesel
not exactly sure WHAT this is. ya gotta love the duct taped on downtube protector....innntheegheetooo...

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24318.jpg

Mmmmm.. reminds me something:rolleyes:

[Atomic]

UNfortunately I dunno what it is :D A bike mabye:rolleyes:

[Rabie]

Azonic Evolution. Props to Ben for hooking me up with the Rotovators... now it's just waiting for the Evil DRS. :devil:

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Rabie
Azonic Evolution. Props to Ben for hooking me up with the Rotovators... now it's just waiting for the Evil DRS. :devil:


Stealth! Nice...

[Rabie]

Thanks, dude. I'm just not into stickers...

[axel]

Originally posted by diesel
not exactly sure WHAT this is. ya gotta love the duct taped on downtube protector....innntheegheetooo...

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24318.jpg
is it just me...or does that seat seem a little too close to the tire???

[Yuornamehere..]

get this, its not even welded but brazed together. haha



http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24382.jpg :rolleyes:

[slayersgp]

here's mine :) not very burly but still pretty comfortable to jump with

[SVEN]

Mine, thanks to Unreal

[SVEN]

My hardtails

[Danchez]

Originally posted by Rabie
Azonic Evolution. Props to Ben for hooking me up with the Rotovators... now it's just waiting for the Evil DRS. :devil:

that is a SWEET lookin gbike. i love the total stealthness. the rotovators give it an even more menacing appearance. it's great.

[PGR]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Yuornamehere..
[B]get this, its not even welded but brazed together. haha
QUOTE]

Is that someones lakejumping rig? I sure wouldn't want to land on that one...

[big cal]

Originally posted by Acadian
Sinister Ridge

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24074.jpg

what does that say on the seat stay? "these tyres are as fat as your ?____? "

sik bike and nice build!

[Atomic]

Originally posted by big cal


what does that say on the seat stay? "these tyres are as fat as your ?____? "

sik bike and nice build!

As fat as your MOM!:p

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Yuornamehere..
get this, its not even welded but brazed together. haha



http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24382.jpg :rolleyes:

as ugly as it gets.. I bet it'S gonna break soon :P

[Atomic]

Originally posted by Atomic


as ugly as it gets.. I bet it'S gonna break soon :P

Unless someone is smart enough to toss this in the garbage!

[spag52]

brazing is stronger than welding so it'll last for awhile:monkey:

[diesel]

thats what i thought spag...thats why i didnt understand why people were all "ITS BRAZED!" as if thats a bad thing...im pretty sure a 100% brazed frame is pretty freeking tough. now im not saying this thing ISNT a pos. but...itll prob hold up for a while.

[M.W.]

From what little knowledge I have, I thought that brazing was stronger if you have two faces that are sliding along each other, but not if you just butt a tube against another one. It would be stronger if you had gussets around the tubes and welded those up, wouldn't it? I might be thinking about other things though.

Even if the method of joining is strong, that thing still looks sketchy.

[Rabie]

Originally posted by Danchez


that is a SWEET lookin gbike. i love the total stealthness. the rotovators give it an even more menacing appearance. it's great.

Thanks, man. I didn't really dig the rotors Hope specs on the mini's, but couldn't really justify going for the M4's (although those rotors are *killer*), so the rotovators worked out perfectly. Maybe a little flashy, but I think the rest of the bike is clean enough to get away with them.

[M.W.]

My 24-7 in it's current incarnation. And no, that's not just a normal cassette with no deraileur, it's an old cassette I had that I've taken apart and rearranged the order of everything so that all the cogs are sandwiched up at the hub, and then the spacers are around the cog. Seems to work well enough.

[Rabie]

Originally posted by diesel
not exactly sure WHAT this is. ya gotta love the duct taped on downtube protector....innntheegheetooo...

http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24318.jpg

Looks kinda like an Arrow DSS (seatstays). At any rate, I bet the seat makes a cool motorcycle noise on the tire.

[M.W.]

A crappy front view just for completeness...

[spag52]

Originally posted by M.W.
From what little knowledge I have, I thought that brazing was stronger if you have two faces that are sliding along each other, but not if you just butt a tube against another one. It would be stronger if you had gussets around the tubes and welded those up, wouldn't it? I might be thinking about other things though.

Even if the method of joining is strong, that thing still looks sketchy.

the guy who made this is in the process of putting gussets on.

[Warped]

Originally posted by Acadian
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic23953.jpg


is that a 1.5 headtube???

[spag52]

warped, i doubt it unless they are using steerer tube shims which i don't even think is possible...marzocchi said they weren't jumpin on 1.5 bandwagon

[NJPhil]

Originally posted by Warped



is that a 1.5 headtube???

Could be a 1.5" w/ reducer cups to except 1.125" forks. That is how the Evil Imperial is shipping. Soon hopefully :D .

[Atomic]

I dont think it's a 1.5" headtube.. I think it's probably just a fricking thick and huge n strong head tube, like on the Balfas BB7, on these babies even a FSA The Pig DH looks really wimp, like 1/8" inside the outside of the head tube...sicck! That's why they call this, the "Moose Proof" headtube :rolleyes:

[Dinsy]

That Banshee is one mad ugly bike

[PGR]

Here is an updated snap of mine...
I've just added a new DMR 4130 bar, as my old one broke. And new tires...

http://www.livevil.dk/pgr/images/tmp/trailstar.jpg

A few details...
http://www.livevil.dk/pgr/images/tmp/collage.jpg

[M.W.]

Originally posted by PGR
Here is an updated snap of mine...
I've just added a new DMR 4130 bar, as my old one broke. And new tires...

http://www.livevil.dk/pgr/images/tmp/trailstar.jpg

A few details...
http://www.livevil.dk/pgr/images/tmp/collage.jpg

Oooh, nice. How do you like those bars? I'm thinking of getting some when (not if, when) my 24-7 bars bend.

[PGR]

I've just put the bars on today, so I haven't got that much time on them yet. I did go for one ride though, and they felt solid. I had the aluminum version of the DMR bar before, and the sweep is the same (4 deg) and everything.

[vitox]

oops

i almost forgot to post this contraption here, it had a short but hectic life, check out the mysteriously steep headangle for a HT with a 7" fork

http://www.vtr.net/~crisfox/pics/DSC00007.JPG

[AleX-N]

Originally posted by spag52
http://www.bombenkrater.de/Bikes/Bilder/letoy3.jpg


hi guy.

you wanted see my Pornking too.
here it is!

cheers

[peter6061]

What do you guys think of this?

http://www.gmpbikes.com/deutsch/bilder/rahmen/FDT-01_gr.jpg

[Yeti DHer]

Originally posted by peter6061
What do you guys think of this?

http://www.gmpbikes.com/deutsch/bilder/rahmen/FDT-01_gr.jpg

Theres a guy on here ( Crusty) who has one of those. Its NICE! Totally Beefy, solid feeling and looks way good!

[monkeyboy424]

i dont have a pic, but ill explain it. kona scab (brand new!) with a good 4" manitou x-vert:D :cool:

[MikeD]

May not be the beef king around here, but it's got great handling, if not the girth of the big boys.

I never knew how much fun it could be going this hard.

Enjoy...I do.

:p

MD

[Yuornamehere..]

heres mine soon to be someones. 300bills
http://www.pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic25036.jpg

[diesel]

Originally posted by Yuornamehere..
heres mine soon to be someones. 300bills


THATS NOT A BIKE THATS A FRAME!? :p

[Bulldog]

Cortina 4130 DS

[the BIG cheese]

:cool: :devil:http://gallery.consumerreview.com/mtbr/gallery/pictures/DCP_0003_1.jpg

[psylo]

MY NEW RIDE!!!! :eek: :D :D :monkey:
http://pinkbike.com/photo/pbpic24901.jpg








(not)

[psylo]

I agree :D

[Cheers]

Nice bike! Did you leave the front brake cable long so you can to bar spins and x ups?

[PGR]

Someone always have to nag about something don't they...;) Why is the cable long,.. Why is the rear brake cable all tangled up aroung the brake,.. Why are there two allen keys sitting on the cranks................... :rolleyes: :)

[diesel]

ha! yea that took me a while to figure out just what the hell those two things were on the cranks...

[prisspringle]

well by the look of it my frames the same as pyslo's a pashley 24mhz, i'll have some better close up ones some time this week but heres one or too from my 1st proper ride, theres a few differances now but i'll tell u about them when i have the pics (ones a rear disc mount)

[prisspringle]

heres another
:) :D

[PGR]

Priss! Do you have a disc mount on your 24MHz? I just talked with one from Pashly about that, and it's not available now :confused:

[prisspringle]

i didn't get it off pashley i made it at work(enginer) its a mk1 at teh mo but i'll have pics tomorrow i hope if i get the flim developed, all it invoves is a primo chain tug and nice bits of 6mm steel welded and drilled in the right spots only took an hr to 2 :D :cool:

[PGR]

Ah,.. sounds cool.

[prisspringle]

i've still got a few problems most of it being qr related but i'm makeing a 12mm bolt through rear axle which will solve that.

priss

[Cheers]

Hey PGR....
I didn't want to mention the other things as I just figure he was so excited to get a pic he didn't want to wait;)

But I seriously wanted to know about the cable.

I never point that kind of stuff out, I can't living in this big ole glass house! :D

[psylo]

ohhhhhh no....

that's not my bike......

see, it says (not) up there

[vernon]

This is my ride....

[bomberz1qr20]

Originally posted by prisspringle
well by the look of it my frames the same as pyslo's a pashley 24mhz, i'll have some better close up ones some time this week but heres one or too from my 1st proper ride, theres a few differances now but i'll tell u about them when i have the pics (ones a rear disc mount)

I don't mean to whinge, but where the f*** is your helmet kid?

[prisspringle]

well i'll add my stead

[MikeD]

Perhaps we should start a 'Band-Logo-Stealers' Fund for Helmetless Kids' together, bomber? Really bothers me to see that, too. End of rant [which happens after every helmetless pic].

[bomberz1qr20]

Originally posted by MikeD
Perhaps we should start a 'Band-Logo-Stealers' Fund for Helmetless Kids' together, bomber? Really bothers me to see that, too. End of rant [which happens after every helmetless pic].

F*** that! Dirt jump lids are dirt cheap!! If you can afford a bike built to survive jumping, you can afford a killer helmet, if not 5 cheap ones...

Love your sig by the way...

[MikeD]

Very true, very true. I didn't *really* think that people refuse to wear helmets b/c of cost, though...

(Thanks...I was gonna use the little ska guy from an Op Ivy album, but he didn't scan so well...I think this one's better...though I still kinda feel like a thief.)

[prisspringle]

i personaly don't use one unless i'm doing a dh(mx one)' piss pots' as there know on this side of the pond never feel right on my head they woble when jumping and distract me and often in crashed they come off , well they do on my head, that and to me a bit of plastic and 1/2 and inch of foam doesn't really protect me i've still got ko'd when using one ok i probbly would if i han'd had one but i wouldn't be left with stiches from the shatterd plastic that was my 'pisspot':(

anyway thats my rant, the way i look at it if u don't want to don't bother and u can suffer the consiquences.


priss

[MikeD]

1/2" of foam and some plastic don't protect you? OK, I'm gonna hit you in the head with a hammer. Do you 1) want a helmet, or 2) not want a helmet?

Gimme a break.

Yeah, it's gonna hurt either way, but... I've crashed and been KO'd and/or recieved a concussion with a fullface on, too...don't complain that you were KO'd. Be glad your brains aren't splattered on a rock.

I'm pretty much a libertarian...so I think it's pretty much gonna be your choice to wear it or not, but I can't say I think you're making a smart or good choice.

Then again, I don't want the rest of society paying for an idiot's medical care, either, in the form of higher medical insurance.

I think this argument's gonna go on forever and this isn't the place; people want pics of hardtails here, so that's my last cent on the issue. Rebut if you will, or just send me a PM...I think everyone's prolly tired of this already. Ride on, be safe.

MD

[prisspringle]

fair enough, just my way of riding i find em annoying i'll ride with out unless i have to aka dh

priss

[Warped]

keep

[Warped]

posting

[Warped]

pics..

[Warped]

Does anyone know anything about that Cyclepro frame? I think it looks pretty nice.......

[Danchez]

that baby looks sweet. give us some stats

[PGR]

Cyclepro (http://www.cyclepro.se) : A Swedish company... They don't really make super-high end bikes. I don't think they sell the frames seperatly...

[Timmy Turtle]

Its exactly the same frame as the azonic evolution.

[jodysbike]

New fork!

[Warped]

nice!

[prisspringle]

nice ride, wot u think of the shiver sc?

priss

[Warped]

Originally posted by PGR
Cyclepro (http://www.cyclepro.se) : A Swedish company... They don't really make super-high end bikes. I don't think they sell the frames seperatly...

i checked out the website and obviously cant understand anything. do you have any idea what the price is?

[PGR]

Originally posted by Warped


i checked out the website and obviously cant understand anything. do you have any idea what the price is?

The model is called "Xelos". From what I can see, it only comes as a complete bike. Direct link (http://www.cyclepro.se/cyklar.asp?artno=22293&category=10).

The price is 13.995 Swedish crowns. That's 1.356,99 US$ with todays exchange rate...

If you are serious about maybe getting this bike, it will most likely be a pain for you to get a hold of one, since you live in the Americas.

[ummbikes]

Craftworks Rail
Marzocchi Z1 MCR
Hayes Brakes
Race Face Prodigy DH cranks
XT Rhinolite wheels
Rocket shifters
Maxxis High Rollers 2.5
XT shifters

WANTED: a chain guide!!!!!

Okay, here is the review, I took it dirtjumping yesterday, it was the bike and mines first time. The bike is very balanced feeling. I thought the weight would be an issue, but it just seemed to make everything feel stable. The finish of the bike is good. It is anodised, which I admit is nice to look at but not so strong! The welds are quality, and the design seems bomb proof.

Robhttp://us.f1.yahoofs.com/groups/nwmudslingers/Craftwork1.jpg?bcARxx8AVjxi95sQ

[sod8]

Originally posted by Warped


i checked out the website and obviously cant understand anything. do you have any idea what the price is?
If you missed Timmy Turtle's post, it is most likely the exact same frame as the Azonic Evolution. At least it looks that way frome the pic. They retail for around 450(?)

[Warped]

that doesnt necessarily mean they will be the same price. with Azonic, you're paying for the name too. i am pretty sure that the eliminator-style frames differ in price too.

[sod8]

Originally posted by Warped
that doesnt necessarily mean they will be the same price. with Azonic, you're paying for the name too. i am pretty sure that the eliminator-style frames differ in price too.
Yeah, but this one would be coming from Sweeden.

[Warped]

well, by the time shipping and handling is taken care of, they're probably the same. sorry, i didnt think of that...

[sod8]

Do you happen to know who else sales that same frame?