One way to get back at the scammers..... [Archive]

Fulton

12-17-2004, 06:46 AM

Earlier this week I posted some stuff for sale, I immediately got an email from a scammer, with the typical "I'll send you this much in a cashiers check, you send the bike and the extra money.....", well, the fact that I didn't have a bike for sale gave it away. Anyway, I told him my bike was $3400, he sent out a cashiers check, overnighted from london, along with a UPS call tag for the bike. I told the UPS guy that the bike would be ready tomorrow......

I went down to my local shop, and got 2 bike boxes. I put the second, smaller box, inside the first, to reinforce it for what I had planned... :D

I then filled the boxes with parts of a cut up tree stump, and hunks of broken concrete. The end weight was 156 pounds. I had to help the UPS guy get it into his truck. On the customs form, I put, commercial product, value $7200. I got online, and depending on the method, shipping alone on the bike should be around $700, and the customs fees should be another $600 or so, all of which is coming directly out of this a$$holes's wallet. I asked the driver, if he could refuse the package because of the fees, and they said he has a UPS account, so everything is automatically charged to him. (Bad thing is, he's probably using someone else's account, I dodn't think about that until after the package was gone.) Today I'm going to the post office to send my second package to this guy, a thank you card, and a jar of ky jelly to help with the anal rape he's about to receive. If more of us started doing things like this, we could help put an end to some of these scams.

DßR

12-17-2004, 09:16 AM

that's ****ing hilarious! Good work Fulton.

Slugman

12-17-2004, 10:51 AM

Did they do the typical over pay and expect money back? if so how'd you deal with that, just not send it or did you make a bogus check to send back to him?

Fulton

12-17-2004, 11:14 AM

Did they do the typical over pay and expect money back? if so how'd you deal with that, just not send it or did you make a bogus check to send back to him?

he's still waiting for me to send the balance via western union. he's gonna be waiting along time hehehehehe

yojimborace

12-17-2004, 11:22 AM

Nice work, more of us have gotta do that.

dG video

12-17-2004, 09:56 PM

sweet, did you give out your real adress?

Li'l Dave

12-18-2004, 10:20 AM

Right on man, next time I get one of those scams I know exactly what I am doing for him in return... :devil: :devil: :evil:

AggieRacer

12-18-2004, 08:57 PM

Im not quite understanding how these guys make money off of this. Did the check that they send you bounce?

Fulton

12-18-2004, 09:34 PM

Im not quite understanding how these guys make money off of this. Did the check that they send you bounce?

they send a fake cashiers check for more than the cost of the bike, and want you to send the balance. Many banks will cash these checks immediately, so a week after you've sent this guy your bike, and a couple extra $k, the bank calls you and wants their money!

Fulton

12-18-2004, 09:35 PM

sweet, did you give out your real adress?
ya, but I'm moving real soon, so I'm not worried about it.

Fulton

12-18-2004, 09:36 PM

Right on man, next time I get one of those scams I know exactly what I am doing for him in return... :devil: :devil: :evil:
the key is to have them send a call tag for your bike. thats the only way it will work.

Li'l Dave

12-18-2004, 11:04 PM

I'm going to get someone to send the check to my shop, if he really wants to come in and have his friends beat me up or something, he can deal with all the shop guys... good luck buddy!!

d-sop

12-19-2004, 12:50 AM

to make it better put the address as someone you hate. otherwise, thats soooooo awesome. i would do that.

Corporatefailure

12-22-2004, 09:43 AM

very very shifty.

Brian HCM#1

12-22-2004, 02:20 PM

Thats to awesome, you should now take the check to one of those check cashing places in da hood where they don't ask for any ID;)

FR4life.

12-23-2004, 01:06 AM

Holy sh!t thats awesome! :thumb: I hate those bastards that try to pull that kinda sh!t. :mumble: :nuts:

-Chris

BigMike

12-24-2004, 09:45 AM

you rule

Smelly

12-24-2004, 02:29 PM

that is f***ing awesome. props to you, Fulton!
i'm definitely doing this next time i get a scam email

yojimborace

01-06-2005, 11:37 AM

Hey Fulton, any more news? I wanna know if I should try this or not :D :D :D

Fulton

01-06-2005, 02:41 PM

Hey Fulton, any more news? I wanna know if I should try this or not :D :D :D

Haven't heard anything. UPS didn't give me a tracking number when they picked upthe package. The scammer has had the gall to tell me:

"I am disapointed of you because the balance have not been sent. I am an honorable person with most good intentions."

I haven't heard from him in about a week though, so I'm not sure what's happening with it.

If you can get your guy to send a call tag for the bike, I say go for it.

yojimborace

01-10-2005, 07:25 PM

OK, just keep us posted.

Fury

01-11-2005, 10:34 PM

Subscribed! :thumb:

oscerthegrouch

01-12-2005, 08:42 AM

you think if i cash the check at one of the ghetto places i get to keep the money some scammer is sending me 2500$

Fury

01-12-2005, 10:49 AM

you think if i cash the check at one of the ghetto places i get to keep the money some scammer is sending me 2500$

You might get the money but I'm sure for that amount of cash they'd ask for some sort of identification.

oscerthegrouch

01-12-2005, 01:44 PM

well ill show them my liscense but i dont think they will ask for my phone number or anything

Slugman

01-12-2005, 02:08 PM

well ill show them my liscense but i dont think they will ask for my phone number or anything

I really hope this is sarcasm...

oscerthegrouch

01-12-2005, 02:24 PM

lol what if its not :p

blue

01-12-2005, 09:18 PM

You'd be a complete idiot?

punkassean

01-12-2005, 09:41 PM

This reminds me of that "Scam the Scammer" story about an iBook some guy sold. That was great story based on the same concept. But this guy had another computer forum member track down the london address of the scammer and do some serious investigating. Here's a link to the full story, such a great victory!

http://www.mannequin3d.com/powerbook/

Fury

01-12-2005, 10:21 PM

P-P-P-Powerbook!

"Laser!!" omfg... that's hillarious!

punkassean

01-12-2005, 10:23 PM

:D that story makes you all warm and fuzzy inside.

BigMike

01-12-2005, 10:56 PM

punkassean

01-12-2005, 11:07 PM

Long read but a good read :thumb:

ctrailfreak

01-13-2005, 10:43 PM

you think if i cash the check at one of the ghetto places i get to keep the money some scammer is sending me 2500$

Wouldnt it make you into what they are IF YOU DO THIS ? After all it isnt their money. It's the banks money. And i'm not down for robben no banks. They would shurly catch you. Those check cashing places have cameras aimed right at you're face. "Hate to see you on the 6 0 clock news, if you try it man."

And I think FULTON had a better time rippen this scammers AZZ then he would have had spenden some scammers money. Hurt these terds the legal way, instead of hurten you're self and in turn being the same as they are!

yojimborace

01-14-2005, 11:23 AM

Fulton is helping to encourage scammers to stop scamming. It all depends on how you look at it.

IronJim

01-15-2005, 03:46 PM

it's a freakin' binder. That is the funniest thing i have ever seen

Fulton

01-17-2005, 05:18 PM

Wouldnt it make you into what they are IF YOU DO THIS ? After all it isnt their money. It's the banks money. And i'm not down for robben no banks. They would shurly catch you. Those check cashing places have cameras aimed right at you're face. "Hate to see you on the 6 0 clock news, if you try it man."

And I think FULTON had a better time rippen this scammers AZZ then he would have had spenden some scammers money. Hurt these terds the legal way, instead of hurten you're self and in turn being the same as they are!

Just curious, what legal action could I have taken? The American authorities have expressed zero interest in these situations.

Yes, I do indeed sleep better at night knowing what I did, too many people have been ripped off by @ssholes like this. If they stop making money with these scams, they'll stop doing them.

Also, how am I "being the same as they are!"? I take a good bit of offense to that. I had nothing to gain from this situation, and was only motivated by the countless stories I've heard of people getting screwed out of their bikes and thousands of dollars. Would you feel better if I sent this guy a check for $1500 to cover his expenses?

ctrailfreak

01-17-2005, 06:06 PM

Just curious, what legal action could I have taken? The American authorities have expressed zero interest in these situations.

Yes, I do indeed sleep better at night knowing what I did, too many people have been ripped off by @ssholes like this. If they stop making money with these scams, they'll stop doing them.

Also, how am I "being the same as they are!"? I take a good bit of offense to that. I had nothing to gain from this situation, and was only motivated by the countless stories I've heard of people getting screwed out of their bikes and thousands of dollars. Would you feel better if I sent this guy a check for $1500 to cover his expenses?

Did you not even read what I had typed? It was not even directed at you Fulton. It was directed at the guy that asked if he could just keep the cash the scammers had sent him. Notice the (quote) in my post and read it again!

I was actually commending you,not puting you down. I dont even know what you are talking about.Again, I did not direct this at you. It was directed at oscerthegrouch!

Read his post. What I said is that if he tried to cash a check that was fake some scammer sent him, knowing that it was fake. And kept the remainder of the money, it would make him no better than the person that had scammed him! "since it was the banks money he would be takeing" NOT THE SCAMMERS. And doing so intentionaly.

That is what is illegal! Not what you did. If you are offended by what I said, then I hope this clears things up some. "It was not intended that way." :thumb:

Fulton

01-17-2005, 06:20 PM

Did you not even read what I had typed? It was not even directed at you Fulton. It was directed at the guy that asked if he could just keep the cash the scammers had sent him. Notice the (quote) in my post and read it again!

I was actually commending you,not puting you down. I dont even know what you are talking about.Again, I did not direct this at you. It was directed at oscerthegrouch!

Read his post. What I said is that if he tried to cash a check that was fake some scammer sent him, knowing that it was fake. And kept the remainder of the money, it would make him no better than the person that had scammed him! "since it was the banks money he would be takeing" NOT THE SCAMMERS. And doing so intentionaly.

That is what is illegal! Not what you did. If you are offended by what I said, then I hope this clears things up some. "It was not intended that way." :thumb:

I'm sorry, been having ash!tty day...didn't comprehend you post before I responded. thanks

ctrailfreak

01-17-2005, 08:31 PM

I'm sorry, been having ash!tty day...didn't comprehend you post before I responded. thanks

No problem what so ever man! Just thought I'd clear things up a bit.

ibismojo

01-19-2005, 02:11 PM

ah yes, the old ebay get 'em back technique. some folks did this with a laptop. they gave them everything except what would be inside the laptop.

grimm

02-07-2005, 11:41 AM

So, Fulton.. have you gotten any more emails from this guy yet? ;)

Fulton

02-07-2005, 06:34 PM

So, Fulton.. have you gotten any more emails from this guy yet? ;)

haven't heard anything in weeks. I did contact UPS to check on the package, and they confirmed that it had been delivered.

grimm

02-08-2005, 04:09 PM

haven't heard anything in weeks. I did contact UPS to check on the package, and they confirmed that it had been delivered.

hehehe... excellent! :nuts:

zane

02-09-2005, 12:29 AM

I just read through that whole P-P-P-powerbook thing, it's freakin great. The more we scam the scammers the better, but unfortunately there's still a whole lot of stupid people out there who play right into their scams. Oh well, at least we get to have some fun with them first.

updog

02-21-2005, 04:59 PM

I posted my bike on a few different sites and the next day got like 6 scam emails. Here is one...it's stupid because I listed how much it was

hello,

how much do you wanna sell the item?i willbe making payment with a cashier cheque,so i will be needing your full name and address to send the cheque to you.dont worry about the shipment,my shipping agent will pick it up overthere.get back to me as soon as possible

Regards

'David Roy' <alwaysinstore@outgun.com>

updog

02-21-2005, 05:00 PM

Good day,
I saw your advert via the net about an item put forsale by you and i would like to make an enquiry as regard it.I would like to know if the item is still up for sale or not?If it's still up forsale,kindly let me know,If you purchase this item from new or how many previous owner before you?I would also like to know the present working condition of this item and the present picture of this said item if any, where you are located and lastly i would want you to get back to me with the last price of the item.
Thanks

updog

02-21-2005, 05:03 PM

This one is extra dumb. His name from the email is different from what he says

'David Roy' <alwaysinstore@outgun.com>

I`M DAVIS HOOK,A FRANCE BASED BUSINESS MAN.I`M VERY MUCH INTERESTED IN BUYING 03' Orange 222 - $2700.SO I WANT YOU TO GET BACK TO ME WITH THE LATEST CONDITION OF THE ITEM.BEST REGARDS.

What kind of 'France based business men' ride bikes?

-BB-

02-21-2005, 05:05 PM

Thats to awesome, you should now take the check to one of those check cashing places in da hood where they don't ask for any ID;)

So he can get arrested?

I think that it is funny, but a bad idea to do this.
in essence, you are Scamming someone too, assuming that they are a scammer too. But it is probably still against the law.

oscerthegrouch

02-21-2005, 05:16 PM

i got them to send me a check... now i have it framed and hanging on my wall, every time i look at it it makes me laugh as to how dumb some ppl are. :)

scrublover

02-23-2005, 01:15 AM

http://www.zug.com/pranks/powerbook/

updated linkage on the Powerbook scam story. long, but funny.

mackster23

03-19-2005, 12:54 PM

I love it.
you rock!!

Hope we all get a chance to kick some scammer ass.

coolcool

oly

03-28-2005, 12:01 PM

Thats great!

For more scamming the sammer stuff check this place out.. http://www.419eater.com/

Its mostly based on the 419 nigerian money scam, but theres some real funny stuff. Check out the photos of the people trying to scam ( trophy room) , and check some of the recorded phone conversations the guy does ( audio files)... Great way to spend a lazy afternoon......

Transcend

03-29-2005, 05:39 PM

I was in on the pppppowerbook deal. T'was awesome. It was on a forum i used to be very active in.

the wop

04-06-2005, 11:57 AM

man I wish I had seen the pppower book anti-scam when I was selling my sants cruz.
I had four different scammers ready to buy for 2X the ammount of my bike.
one of them contacted me through via phone call , he said that he was a mute so the operator had to translate his text to me.
the only problem was I couldn't get the operator to translate- F@#K off you scammin piece of S%^t your lucky your a euro cause I'd find ya and beat the F@#k out of you, die slowly you S%^t bag !!she said something a little less vulgar :(
needless to say he hung up after I refused his crappy check