Singlespeed Cassette Disc Hubs [Archive]

-dustin

11-25-2004, 04:47 PM

alrighty, let's just go ahead and get this over with; a running list of SS cassette disc hubs (post a pic or 2, as well, from the website [unless it's Hadley]). i'll go ahead and start with the hubs i own, not to mention the cream of the crop:

http://www.chrisking.com/hubs/sspeed_disc_images/230W/OrangeSSC.jpg

http://www.chrisking.com/hubs/sspeed_disc_images/230W/orangeSSA.jpg

next......

Arsbars

11-25-2004, 05:14 PM

Rumor has it for the price these On-One/Planet X's are indestructable

http://www.on-one.co.uk/graphics/products_f/Hubwithsprocket_450.jpg

Toshi

11-25-2004, 06:05 PM

http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/NF-SSHR.gif

heavy tho!

nashbar ss disc:
WT: 649g
Flange to center
34mm Right
38mm Left
i don't see how these measurements are possible, but if true then the ss hub actually has a narrower flange width than the xt...

xt disc for comparison:
weight----------- 432g (36H with skewer) by tech
dimension-------- flange diameter=45mm, center to flange left=30mm
center to flange right=45.8mm

manchvegasbulit

11-25-2004, 06:15 PM

i ride a woodman, ss -cassette-bolt on hub......its the best hub i could find for the $, and have beat the living sh** out of it riding, urban, dirt, trails, u name it................best hub for the $.....
kyle

Sir_Crackien

11-26-2004, 10:02 PM

same here. the woodman hub rocks for the money. i ride really hard and i'm a big guy(240) and this hub has given me no problems at all. 6' to flat, 10' to tranny, dj, park, street, you name it the hub has lasted through it

jace

11-27-2004, 03:20 PM

For the record - The Woodman, Nashbar, and Novatec hubs are all identical and clones of the Planet-X, which was originally designed by Brant from On-One. Strong, heavy, cheap. Slow to engage though.

jace

11-27-2004, 03:28 PM

Hadley

(courtesy of Larry Mettler)

Toshi

11-27-2004, 04:03 PM

jace

11-27-2004, 04:10 PM

out of those vendors i bet nashbar has the lowest price... ?

at $59, I doubt it could be had any cheaper.

Strakar

11-27-2004, 04:15 PM

Edited to avoid confusion (see below)

Strakar

11-27-2004, 10:12 PM

nice hub, but this thread is about cassette hubs, not ones that take freewheels...
Ah sorry, you're right, I was thinking SS disc hubs...

peter6061

11-29-2004, 01:19 PM

Go check out the True Precision Stealth hub. The engagement blows away most of the competetion and it has a ISO (6 bolt) disc mount not to mention, they're silent.

True Precision (http://www.trueprecision.net)

You might have to search around, it looks like they've changed their website. I found it under the BMX listings and then scrolled down.
*edit: it's in their online catalog.

http://www.trueprecision.net/shopping/media/poacher1_grey2.jpg

scurban

11-29-2004, 10:09 PM

I use a woodman bill
Its pretty pimp

BikeGeek

01-04-2006, 03:06 PM

For the record - The Woodman, Nashbar, and Novatec hubs are all identical and clones of the Planet-X, which was originally designed by Brant from On-One. Strong, heavy, cheap. Slow to engage though.

The Nashbar hubs (http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=85&subcategory=1107&brand=&sku=12033&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=) are on sale now for $35.

peter6061

01-04-2006, 03:29 PM

The Nashbar hubs (http://www.nashbar.com/profile.cfm?category=85&subcategory=1107&brand=&sku=12033&storetype=&estoreid=&pagename=) are on sale now for $35.
That could build up a nice beefy singlespeed wheel.
36H on #6001 replacable cartridge bearings. Nice.

H8R

01-04-2006, 03:37 PM

For the record - The Woodman, Nashbar, and Novatec hubs are all identical and clones of the Planet-X, which was originally designed by Brant from On-One. Strong, heavy, cheap. Slow to engage though.

Dude, you're trippin! Look at the logos - they're totally different...

Woodman:
http://www.woodmancomponents.com/products/hubs/images/hubs/bill_single_rsn/bill_single_rsn.gif

Nashbar:
http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/NF-SSHR.gif

Novatec:
http://www.bikeusa.com/Merchant2/graphics/hubs/HU0506.jpg

On-one:
http://www.on-one.co.uk/images/pagemaster/Hubwithsprocket_450.jpg

:rolleyes:

Heath Sherratt

01-06-2006, 03:07 PM

Phil Wood, Dt Swiss, American Classic.

BikeGeek

01-06-2006, 03:22 PM

Phil Wood, Dt Swiss, American Classic.

The DT Swiss says that it's compatible with Shimano Centerlock Discs. Does that mean it won't work with IS 6-bolt?

I think Phil Wood only does freewheel-type hubs not cassette types, right?

peter6061

01-06-2006, 03:32 PM

The DT Swiss says that it's compatible with Shimano Centerlock Discs. Does that mean it won't work with IS 6-bolt?

I think Phil Wood only does freewheel-type hubs not cassette types, right?
I have the DT Swiss. It is centerlock, but they sell a sweet adapter that allows you to use 6 bolt rotors. You can check it out sometime if you want.

BikeGeek

01-07-2006, 06:12 PM

One thing that confuses me about the Novatec/Woodman/On-One/Nashbar hub is reported weight. Speedgoat lists the Novatec at 640g, the Woodman at 460g, and Nashbar lists theirs as 649g. I picked up a Nashbar hub and it's an anchor. Without cog, spacers, and nuts, it's around 550g. Weird, considering they're all supposed to be the same hub.

Enginerd A2

01-08-2006, 01:02 PM

I have the Profile SS cassette disk hub. It's nice. I don't know how to post pictures, but it's at www.profileracing.com. Titanium cassette body, super tight tolerances, nice machine work. I won't say it's quite on par with the King, but it's definitely one of the cream of the crop. Had I known about that Nasbar hub, I probably would have bought one of those instead, even though I got a sweet deal on the Profile. I rarely buy parts this nice. In fact, I think it's the single nicest bike part I've ever owned.

MikeOK

01-11-2006, 06:25 PM

thanks for the info, this helps

mikeG

01-11-2006, 06:40 PM

I am running the Hadley and it is incredible. I would choose that before anything else. It is the most durable SS hub I have used.

boostindoubles

01-18-2006, 01:34 PM

peter6061

01-18-2006, 01:58 PM

Wow, that's nuts! It says you can put a 9 tooth cog on that beast.... It doesn't look like it has any ability to adjust chainline though.

At $260, it's really not bad considering most other high end cassette single speed hubs are more than that at cost.

BikeGeek

01-19-2006, 10:56 AM

I have the Profile SS cassette disk hub...

Tell me more. Does it use proprietary cogs or are they a standard spline pattern? How much adjustment for chainline?

poguemothoin

01-19-2006, 11:37 AM

I'm running a UNO Bombshell on my Spot. Nice pawl sound, bullet proof.
http://bombshellparts.com/products_hubs.htm

BikeGeek

01-19-2006, 12:03 PM

I'm running a UNO Bombshell on my Spot. Nice pawl sound, bullet proof.
http://bombshellparts.com/products_hubs.htm

Interesting...looks like it could be yet another name the Novatecs are sold under.

http://bombshellparts.com/images/unosinglespeedhub.jpg

BikeGeek

01-24-2006, 08:32 AM

More info on the Novatec/Woodman/Nashbar/On-One/etc. hubs: For the vertical dropout crowd, I've read you can get a QR axle from Woodman that works with the lot of them.

update, 8 Feb: according to Woodman, the "Bill RSQ" axle can be ordered through BTI.

Bicyclist

02-07-2006, 12:18 AM

My next wheels will be Am. Classic. Cheap, light, and pretty good for XC/Trail use. DTs look nice. Hadleys are too damn expensive, as are Kings. Otherwise I'd be on one of them.

Mackie

02-07-2006, 07:37 AM

Dude, you're trippin! Look at the logos - they're totally different...:rolleyes:

I'm sensing a trend:
http://www.irocycle.com/imagelib/dischub2.jpg

BikeGeek

02-07-2006, 08:06 AM

My next wheels will be Am. Classic. Cheap, light, and pretty good for XC/Trail use. DTs look nice. Hadleys are too damn expensive, as are Kings. Otherwise I'd be on one of them.

I thought about the Am Classics, but read more bad reviews than good. It sounds like the bearing life is crap and their customer service is equally bad. Bearings can be replaced, but at that price, they shouldn't have to be.

Spitfired

02-14-2006, 06:24 PM

BikeGeek

02-15-2006, 08:37 AM

Does anybody know how many engagement points are on the Novatech/others hubs? I can't decide whether I should really throw down and get a profile or hadley, or if I should save my bread and get one of those generic setups.

I had mine apart last night. It looked like six pawls arranged in pairs, so three engagement points.

buildyourown

02-15-2006, 08:46 AM

I had mine apart last night. It looked like six pawls arranged in pairs, so three engagement points.

Your math is a it off. A hub with 3 engagement points would be unrideable.
It has more to do with how many teeth are on the cassette body for the pawls to engage.
The woodman feels decent. It's no hadley, but it feels better than an XT.

Spitfired

02-15-2006, 09:04 AM

Hrm, thanks.
The hadley is still temping, but I think the money saving option is the right idea.

BikeGeek

02-15-2006, 09:16 AM

It has more to do with how many teeth are on the cassette body for the pawls to engage.

I stand corrected...makes sense.

Spitfired: if you need the name, go for the Woodman/Novatec/On-One, they're all about $100. To save some real money, the Nashbar is the same hub and is currently $35.

Spitfired

02-15-2006, 03:16 PM

Just a bit of an update - Us Draco boys are going to be building all our personal Park Ave frames so we're going to do a big old order for our parts. Looks like we'll be running profile hubs with their 9t driver. I guess we're going to make some 18 tooth front sprockets for the micro-est micro drive ever!
Should be all setup around the end of next month.

Tame Ape

02-15-2006, 08:44 PM

I've got the WTB SS disc hub. Has fun bolt style bolts and is light as poot. Engagement is slow and the hub has a stupid lock-ring type retention system using a cheap ass lock ring...

CreeP

02-18-2006, 12:57 AM

Mackie, those actually are different. going by the front hub in that pic i'd say they are made by formula, which wouldn't surprise me at all.

http://homepage.mac.com/ozzemale/.Pictures/Photo%20Album%20Pictures/2007-07-29%2007.06.12%20-0700/Image-73F102463DDC11DC.jpg
NPJ 14mm axle, takes shimano splined cogs, comes stock with a 13t cog, if i'm reading correctly. http://www.npj-dirtbikes.de/parts.php <-dead link for the mo, they are re-doing the site.

http://staticbikes.co.uk/images/14hub.png
same deal different design
http://staticbikes.co.uk/14hub.php

i'll report back later on the number of engagement points on the Brant hub, i'll have to take the hub apart first. BTW Velocity also uses the same hub in their singlespeed wheelset.

CreeP

02-21-2006, 03:41 PM

the novatech/woodman/nashbar/on-one/planet-x/ etc etc hub has 24 teeth inside the hub and three pawls.

Mackie

02-22-2006, 06:59 AM

Mackie, those actually are different.
Front is Formula, rear is One-one/Novatec/Nashbar, etc......

BikeGeek

02-22-2006, 10:12 AM

Front is Formula, rear is One-one/Novatec/Nashbar, etc......

I don't know. Compare the IRO rear to the pics in post #16 (http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1891212&postcount=16). The IRO ramps up where it meets the flange on both sides, the On-One only has it on one side.

As a side note, Brant at On-One said that they're not doing more of the hubs. I'm guessing it's because of Novatec "stealing" the design and selling it to other companies who then turn around and undercut the On-One price.

Mackie

02-22-2006, 10:26 AM

I don't know. Compare the IRO rear to the pics in post #16 (http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showpost.php?p=1891212&postcount=16).
Just repeating what I heard from someone "In the know" over on rec.bicycles.tech. You could be right.

BikeGeek

02-22-2006, 11:13 AM

Just repeating what I heard from someone "In the know" over on rec.bicycles.tech. You could be right.

It's always interesting to see companies selling rebranded stuff, especially when the prices are sometimes very different. Sure, I might get some laughs from the "cool kids" :rolleyes: for my Nashbar hub, but I got the hub and a new Thomson post for the price of the name-brand hub. :)

CreeP

02-22-2006, 10:45 PM

Just repeating what I heard from someone "In the know" over on rec.bicycles.tech. You could be right.

i think your source needs to get their eyesight checked, at the very least they use different molds for the hubshell, the flange spacing can't be the same, if you notice how the disc mount is made.

BikeGeek

03-02-2006, 02:23 PM

Another entry:
Funn Bullet
http://www.speedgoat.com/images/products/115548.jpg

CreeP

03-14-2006, 07:50 PM

that looks totally sweet. cost?

CreeP

03-14-2006, 08:33 PM

found this: http://www.descent-world.co.uk/ARCHIVE_PRE2005/images/vegas2005_revellhubs.jpg
msrp 170- thread on cog, 14 or 10 mm axle, not sure of dropout spacing but greasycomb distro lists em under mountainbike components; and 36 or 48 spoke.

in case it was too obscure, the company is Revell.
The hubs are very very similar to the Proper bmx hub.

Mudflaps

03-14-2006, 11:39 PM

Having built dozens of wheels on XT hubs, the dimensions you list for XT are incorrect on the center-to-right flange. The true dimensions (center-to-right flange) are between 19-21.5 mm, depending on the era of XT hub, i.e. 7,8,or 9 speed. The dimensions for the left-to-center sound about right.
http://www.nashbar.com/nashbar_photos/medium/NF-SSHR.gif

heavy tho!

nashbar ss disc:

i don't see how these measurements are possible, but if true then the ss hub actually has a narrower flange width than the xt...

xt disc for comparison:

bigdonut

03-15-2006, 02:43 PM

The engagement on these hubs is awesome!
http://www.trueprecision.net/shopping/media/poacher1_grey2.jpg

peter6061

03-15-2006, 02:55 PM

The engagement on these hubs is awesome!
http://www.trueprecision.net/shopping/media/poacher1_grey2.jpg
Been looking into those for years, but they have been hard to get...

http://www.ridemonkey.com/forums/showthread.php?t=146937&highlight=stealth

bigdonut

03-15-2006, 03:40 PM

I got one of the regular MTB rear hubs off Ebay about a year and half ago. Totally loved the engagement but I messed up one of the bolt holes and the cassette body. I haven't tried to get parts for it yet. They aren't cheap but I would like to get the SS version!

CreeP

03-24-2006, 04:17 PM

apparently they are redoing the hubs and a new series will be out in the comming year, starting with the bmx hub.

Spitfired

04-13-2006, 06:21 PM

New hub from Halo.
They told me production will be done around the end of april.
BTI said not to expect them in the states for around 4 months.
Looks like an awesome setup though.
http://www.halorims.com/HaloNew/Images/djdrearmain.jpg

CreeP

09-06-2007, 12:24 AM

I found another hub to add to this topic. actually a few but only one off the top of my head. As this is a bit of a repository i hope there aren't any dicks who get annoyed for resuscitating an older thread.

so down to business.

Last hub:
http://www.mangasports.com/last/pics/hubs/Zakk_V1_driveside.jpg
it looks too good not to use the large pic.
http://www.mangasports.com/last/pics/hubs/Zakk_V1_front.jpg

7075 driver in 11t 12t 14t.
~450g
made in Germany?

dishless (35.5 centre to each flange)
36h only

CreeP

09-06-2007, 12:40 AM

Since this thread was started Hope has introduced their Pro2 in a singlespeed version:

http://www.singletrackworld.com/mod/submit/images/1877-1.jpg

also Industry Nine has a SS option now.
QR or bolt on
http://www.industrynine.net/Pictures/FORMATTED/SS-wide-600.jpg

-dustin

09-06-2007, 12:52 AM

that "Last" hub looks badass.

CreeP

09-06-2007, 10:12 PM

I just emailed them and they say 135 spacing 1/8th chains!
that's what I'm looking for anyway.

GuettoBlaster

09-06-2007, 11:39 PM

I don't have a picture at the moment but gotta give props to atomlab aircorp singlespeed...they're sick!!!

bcd

09-13-2007, 08:59 PM

i have a wtb and I9, both rule.

but the I9 engadgement even with 1/2 the pawls
removed is super fast.

Cru Jones

09-18-2007, 03:57 PM

I don't have a picture at the moment but gotta give props to atomlab aircorp singlespeed...they're sick!!!

Yes sir! I love this hub. Loud, light, solid engagement, and I like the driver as opposed to cassette style. It will also work with most aftermarket bmx drivers...

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3641/aircorpssas3.jpg

GuettoBlaster

09-20-2007, 08:09 AM

there it is...my brotha Cru save me one more time...Thanks Cru!!!
and by the way...i've just finish setting up the new bike and the Hub is awsome!...i highly recomend...

Agentorangemen

09-27-2007, 08:13 AM

http://www.speedgoat.com/images/products/118727.jpg

Click Me to Buy !!!!!!!!1!!!!!111!!! (http://www.speedgoat.com/product.asp?part=118727&cat=260&brand=70)

Anyone rocking one of these? It's a dimension single speed rear hub, distributed by QBP, for only 120.00 at speedgoat.com (stole their picture). Here is what they list:

• Hollow aluminum axle with thread in bolts or can be used with quick-release axle; quick-release sold separately
• Four sealed cartridge bearings; 6903RS x 1 and 6902RS x 3
• Steel singlespeed freehub body
• Shimano splined includes thread-on lockring and two spacers; cog sold separately
• 6-bolt disc compatible

396 grams

Seems like a decent hub, if the engagement is better than some of the cheaper 8/9 speed offerings that people use. I also dispise freewheels because of their short life and/or high cost. Dimension does make a 4 pawl cassette body, but I don't know the degree of rotation for engagement in this hub. Can any of your shopmonkeys help me out on that? Even mtbr seems to be missing this hub... Wolf in sheeps clothing, or shortened freehub body crap? Please tell me.

Agentorangemen

10-02-2007, 09:38 AM

Found two more, although they seem to be knock offs of each other...

J&B Importers carries a brand called Rockwerks who make a disc single speed cassette hub. Part numbers 38744 bolt on, 38745 quick release. But there seems to be no information about the hub or website available. On the J&B site the picture is just a red x, but the hubs are available in various states.

Formula Hubs has the DC52 quick release and DC52N bolt on both of which are boat anchors at 470 g and 501 g respectively. I can't link a pic of these either because Formula's site is Flash and I have no idea how to do that.

Both of the hubs look similar, like a cross between the Nashbar/Novatech/Woodman hub and the Dimension hub listed above.

That also brings to mind there are the Haro house brand Pivit single speed hubs, along with the Velocity rims single speed hub, which can both be added to the Nashbar/Novatech/Woodman category.