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nicklin
11-12-2004, 12:32 AM
Europe 'lags behind' US on terror
-BBC, November 12th, 2004

De Hoop Scheffer: Europe should catch up in the fight against terrorism
Europe has not caught up with the US in its response to global terrorism, Nato's secretary general has warned.

Europeans had to go as far as Americans in merging external and internal security, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer said in New York.

A "perception gap" had opened up since the 11 September 2001 attacks, he said.

This difference between the US and its European allies was one reason for the strained relations within Nato, the alliance chief added.

'Catch up'

Mr de Hoop Scheffer told the Council on Foreign Relations in New York that "in Europe, we still have complicated discussions... of how far governments could go in the relationship with their citizens in the fight against terrorism."

"I think Europe should catch up here, not the United States, " he added.

Mr de Hoop Scheffer is a former Dutch foreign minister who backed the Bush administration on the war in Iraq without alienating other European leaders.

Asked about Iraq, he said: "When the Iraqi government asks Nato to do more, we'll seriously consider when and if that's possible."

He said he hoped that an alliance training academy for Iraqi forces would be running by the end of the year. Nato is also training Iraqis outside the country.

The alliance has been in charge of the international peacekeeping force in Afghanistan since late last year, in its first so-called out-of-area mission.

On Afghanistan, Mr de Hoop Scheffer repeated international concern about the revived drug trade.

"Poppy fields are growing in large parts of the country, certain warlords are financed from the revenues of the crop and the economy of Afghanistan is dominated by the illegal profits of this growth," he said in an interview with the New York Times newspaper.


the link:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/4005345.stm

Changleen
11-12-2004, 12:38 AM
Europe is 'lagging' in the 'war on terror' because it not made up of quasi-fascist governments who perpetuate the myth of fear that is being force fed very succesfully to people like you.

nicklin
11-12-2004, 12:44 AM
Europe is 'lagging' in the 'war on terror' because it not made up of quasi-fascist governments who perpetuate the myth of fear that is being force fed very succesfully to people like you.


Has Al Queda bombed subways in your hometown or drove two planes into places where your family members work in? Myth of fear? Your old tricks are getting old.

Nick

Changleen
11-12-2004, 12:53 AM
Al-Quaida deaths in USA: 2700

US Deaths in Iraq: 100,000
US Deaths in Afghanistan: 20,000+

Who is the 'terrorist' here?

Do you wanna put this one in your sig too? It's pretty punchy and short.

mr.terrible
11-12-2004, 01:51 AM
Changleen has a valid point there.

The BBC is a well established news source, but it is able to produce crap such as this. The article however fails to tell, why we as europeans should react more strongly against global terrorism? It pretty much states that Europe should catch the US in its response to global terrorism and thats it. No real basis to this claim. Ok, Jaap de Hoop Scheffer is Nato's secretary general but this whole article is based on his personal opinion. "I think Europe should catch up here, not the United States, " he added etc.

N8
11-12-2004, 08:01 AM
Al-Quaida deaths in USA: 2700

US Deaths in Iraq: 100,000
US Deaths in Afghanistan: 20,000+

Who is the 'terrorist' here?

Do you wanna put this one in your sig too? It's pretty punchy and short.


Actually the US deaths (casualities) in both Iraq and Afghanistan are less then 1,500...

:rolleyes:

valve bouncer
11-12-2004, 11:36 AM
Actually the US deaths (casualities) in both Iraq and Afghanistan are less then 1,500...

:rolleyes:
I think this proves it. You are the dumbest guy on the internet. Check the original post carefully.

N8
11-12-2004, 11:48 AM
I think this proves it. You are the dumbest guy on the internet. Check the original post carefully.


Nope... what Chang meant to say and what he did say are two different things..

US induced casualities and US casualities.. not the same.

valve bouncer
11-12-2004, 11:53 AM
Nope... what Chang meant to say and what he did say are two different things..

US induced casualities and US casualities.. not the same.
Read more carefully, especially the bit that starts "Al Quaida".... :rolleyes:

qualude
11-12-2004, 11:58 AM
Has Al Queda bombed subways in your hometown or drove two planes into places where your family members work in? Myth of fear? Your old tricks are getting old.

Nick
Yes...as a matter of fact they did. And they killed my friends. But Iraq has no connection with Al Queda, so what is this war really about? fear? I am more afraid of a Christian Fundamentalist weilding "presidential power" than I am of an Iraqi warlord sabre rattling to get his troops excited..oh, but wait...its the same dam*ed thing.Using Sept. 11th, 2001 as a running platform is the biggest chunk of political B.S. that I have ever heard. Guiliani was only loved by New Yorkers after Sept. 11th. Before hand, his approval ratings were below 40%. Bush's campaign advisors played this out better than anyone ever thought. Keep in mind, the people in NYC voted resoundedly AGAINST Bush and his "war on terror". We didn't want him back in office, because of the fact that he used the greatest tradgedy this city has ever seen to further his political agenda, minimizing the effect that is has by overusing it.
How many times did Bush say "9/11" during the debates?